When did the police become a "race"?

Well said sir, but I think ollncasino hit it on the head by saying that "the police are a gang". This makes a lot of sense, but still distracts from my OP... However, it provides a valid point that deserves it's own topic. Well said sir!!!

reply to post by Catalyst317


Police became a race when race-baiting became a national pastime.

Originally posted by poloblack
I understand your position, but I shouldn't be somehow ''penalized'' because of some statistics that state that guys who look like me are more prone to criminal activity. Yeah, I know life isn't fair, and all of that, but it doesn't make it right.

I agree with you 100%. On the other hand, it isn't just black people who suffer negative profiling at the hands of the police. So do poor white people. The police like to harass the younger people at the bottom of society no matter what their color.

Back to the subject of the OP. The police are not a race. They do however have the job of catching criminals, most of whom (at least as far as the police are concerned) come from the bottom of society. Categorizing the police as a race when they harass the poor is just manipulation of the police doing their job.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by poloblack
I understand your position, but I shouldn't be somehow ''penalized'' because of some statistics that state that guys who look like me are more prone to criminal activity. Yeah, I know life isn't fair, and all of that, but it doesn't make it right.

I agree with you 100%. On the other hand, it isn't just black people who suffer negative profiling at the hands of the police. So do poor white people. The police like to harass the younger people at the bottom of society no matter what their color.

Back to the subject of the OP. The police are not a race. They do however have the job of catching criminals, most of whom (at least as far as the police are concerned) come from the bottom of society. Categorizing the police as a race when they harass the poor is just manipulation of the police doing their job.

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I agree, bro.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by poloblack
I understand your position, but I shouldn't be somehow ''penalized'' because of some statistics that state that guys who look like me are more prone to criminal activity. Yeah, I know life isn't fair, and all of that, but it doesn't make it right.

I agree with you 100%. On the other hand, it isn't just black people who suffer negative profiling at the hands of the police. So do poor white people. The police like to harass the younger people at the bottom of society no matter what their color.

Back to the subject of the OP. The police are not a race. They do however have the job of catching criminals, most of whom (at least as far as the police are concerned) come from the bottom of society. Categorizing the police as a race when they harass the poor is just manipulation of the police doing their job.

edit on 15-3-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

Well said.. I could have not said it better..

Originally posted by thePharaoh

Originally posted by ollncasino
Not all black people are criminals. For whatever reason though, they are much more likely to be.

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because white people get there weed thrown away...
while black people get prosecuted...

basically that comment you made is part of the reason

thePharaoh, how did I know you would show up on this... ollncasino hit the nail on the head... People who have money can hire great lawyers. Those who do not get larger sentences can afford better lawyers to plead to the judicial system, we can show that wealth is the victim.

Now, please post stats of sentences by race that have been represented by public attorneys. Instead of a "black is the victim" of the judicial system, show what stats prove that MONEY is the biggest racial crime...

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A negative Attitude while being confronted or asked questions by an officer also plays a part in getting arrested/charges.
Like stated above, money does have a huge part due to P.D. vs a legit Lawyer

I agree that the Police are akin to a gang. I mean, they have their own code and the "blue wall" and all of that...

If you are not a cop, then we all look the same to them. Doesn't matter color, or status or attitude. You are a bag to practice their knight stick or tazer or gun on.

We all look the same to them.

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by thePharaoh

 

A negative Attitude while being confronted or asked questions by an officer also plays a part in getting arrested/charges.

I can see that attitude could be a key player and what is the likelihood of one of the younger generation having a more confrontational attitude versus the older generations? As society decays so do the attitudes of the children we raise. When the tv / public schools / gangs / etc. become babysitters for the single teenage parents we see levels of respect go down for others. If the parents don't care for their kids and do not try to raise them.... The cops are left to raise them.

Of course I do not have stats... I am just going by opinion here.

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That study was made by a white supremacist group. The stats aren't even correct, it's been debunked multiple times, you cannot find them on any site other than racist sites.

The New Century Foundation is an organization founded in 1994 known primarily for publishing American Renaissance. From 1994 to 1999 its activities received considerable funding by the Pioneer Fund,[1][2][3] and has been described as a white supremacist group,[4] which its founder, Jared Taylor, denies, calling it white separatist.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by WaterBottle

That study was made by a white supremacist group. The stats aren't even correct, it's been debunked multiple times, you cannot find them on any site other than racist sites.

You may well be correct, however the stats were reported by Examiner.com which isn't a racist site by any stretch of the imagination.

The article citing the stats also has extensive links to official crime stats.

Do you have a study which debunks the stats?

The reason I ask is the article on Examiner.com clearly states that the stats are verified by the FBI’s NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice’s UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, FBI Communication’s Division, 304-625-4995.

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I found this page by the Southern Poverty Law Center Color of Crime Booklet by Jared Taylor Popular on Radical Right

If I have read the page correctly, the the Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't actually argue that blacks, weighted for respective population sizes, don't commit more crimes than whites. Rather they object to black people as a group being identified as having a higher incidence of crime. They argue crime should be identified with poverty, education, social status and urban residence but not with race.

Nonetheless black people are over represented within the groups of poverty, education, social status and urban residence associated with crime.

The Southern Poverty Law Center also appears to object to a focus on interracial crimes between blacks and whites revealed by the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) which apparently shows that

Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery.

Examiner.com

The Southern Poverty Law Center appears to object to this and prefers to point out that a 1997 government report shows that 94 percent of black murder victims, as well as 85 percent of white murder victims, were slain by members of their own race.

This, ignores that fact that, a disproportionately high number of murders were committed by some minority groups both on their own minority group and on other racial groups. In other words, some races murder their own kind and other races at a much higher rate than the overall average.

Some of what the Southern Poverty Law Center states in its attack on the 1999 edition of The Color of Crime has merit but they clearly have their own agenda - one that objects to some minorities being identified as being more criminally orientated, despite the fact that the statistics do bear this out.

I have sympathy for the Southern Poverty Law Center's perspective. I argued in a previous post that poor white young people also suffer harassment from the police.

Nonetheless, the Southern Poverty Law Center, rather than arguing that race is merely one of the factors related to crime, argues that race has no relationship to crime. Such an argument is clearly not true and suggests that the Southern Poverty Law Center has its own axe to grind.

reply to post by ollncasino

thanks for the indepth analysis of the SPLC stance ... they do have an axe to grind and don't mind directing it any person willing to state that their brand of labelling is more fraudulent than Monsanto.

i agree with the 'gang' perception and am appalled that our government (much like England long ago) supports both sides, simultaneously.
it's one big machine and the rest of us are the grease.

anyone else familiar with how SPLC came to be or who created it ?
if so, you might understand why 'police' are perceived as a 'race' all their own.
[this perception was a creation of SPLC many moons ago]

here's a good link for those who'd like to know more ... www.capitalresearch.org...

The Police have allways been there own race simply because they enforce the will of the totalitarian ologart masters they serve.

Essentially Police are a paramilitary organisation, stands to reason that they set themselves apart since normal citizens live in fear of the nefarious powers Police officers could potentially wield against them!

I know that if im standing in the pub and the dude next to me is a known officer of the law im going to move along a few bar stools rather than risk being associated with known scum. Sad but true, they just cant be trusted anymore!