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posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by SilentKillah

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
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My husband recently got an email that a school he's wanted to attend for some time finally had tuition assistance offered. Then he got the notice that there was no more tuition assistance. In this case, Army. Completely messed up! I really can't WAIT till he's out - a year or less! That said, a LOT of the "old school" military people are leaving the military, because of all the drastic changes. What is left when they are all gone? Not what people want. The fate of the nation is in grave peril at this stage.


Don't worry... "The Company" (i.e. DHS) is ramping up and will soon join the wars of the USA... or fight against America to create a new SSA (Separated States of America)


"Don't worry"? When those in control are making moves that signal (from past history) probable power grabs and violations of rights, then people would be foolish not to worry. All that said, well, I expect more is going on than just major problems for this country, and I know where I stand there, so not really all that worried. Concerned, yes. Worried? Implies fear, and I am not afraid. Don't have to be.




posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 02:24 PM
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TPTB are shrinking the military, so that there will be less chance of coup or resistance when martial law occurs. They are going to fight it out with paramilitary (DHS/Police) and hand picked military vs. civilians and veterans. This is all going according to plan. They had to end the wars, bring home the military, then disband a good portion of it. Then came this bogus sequestration giving them a reason to dry the funds up. Ending tuition assistance is one way to get rid of some. You can't keep a large idle force on the ground at home, because they'll be the toughest adversary. The military is also full of good patriots and they know it, so they have to weed them out first. They'll keep the yes-men. They are already labeling as many veterans as they can with PTSD, so they can take away their guns. Congress is working hard on the other end to take the guns away from the civilians. You can bet they'll create even more reasons to draw down the forces during this year.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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I didn't think it really needed a new thread but, good news on the topic!




The White House will have to consider reinstating tuition assistance for troops after a petition on its official website garnered more than 100,000 signatures.


www.navytimes.com...
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posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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I just saw this. Makes me kinda sick. If it is true then I'll be more than kinda sick.

AID to Pakistan



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 10:32 AM
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Cuts in TA was 100% political. It has been said all along (before and after) that the GOP bares the responsibility for the sequester, with that in mind It makes perfect sense why TA was cut immediately. The white house will have to address the issue, hopefully they enact a law that makes TA permanent with some stipulations like eligibility after 4 years. I never agreed with people in first term using it, too much to learn in their job/duties.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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When I say that Obama is working for big military and big oil...I didn't mean he's working for the average soldier or the average motorist.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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You don't build a successful political career in the most corrupt state in the union on integrity. The man and his people are snakes.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 12:03 PM
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Well, this voids my only argument for voluntarily joining the military. I will no longer be encouraging young people to join the U.S. military. I expect a draft will follow.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 12:06 PM
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brilliant.

it seems we're heading for a major war here in the next few years.

so you push this policy, enlistment drops, and you have reason to pressure congress for a draft.

that gives you virtually unlimited manpower.

just one of a few agendas I see this policy shaping.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by tamusan
Well, this voids my only argument for voluntarily joining the military. I will no longer be encouraging young people to join the U.S. military. I expect a draft will follow.


High unemployment will continue to fill the ranks of the military. Not everyone wants to be on welfare, standing in line to get food stamps or however that system works anymore.

The military is still a better option than welfare for many.

Besides, they give you these really nifty, automatic weapons to shoot with.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 02:08 PM
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I retired from the military. I know what they give you.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
This is the precursor to initiating a full out draft in the U.S.


Cutting TA means a draft is coming? You're not serious, are you?


It sucks. Troops losing TA while illegals in Colorado are getting more education benefits (they they are getting them at all is a slap in the face).

But, I'd rather see TA get cut than Troops lose money for operational training.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 02:49 PM
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Well what percentage of people do you think go to the military mostly because of TA?

I'm thinking it's fairly high.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by tamusan
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I retired from the military. I know what they give you.


They can give you memories...both good and bad. It's not always a picnic. But it's better than living on welfare and food stamps in a neighborhood with bars on the windows.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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General Motors installed their first automated welding machine in 1961.

Today, General Motors has over twenty thousand automated welding machines on line.

The soldier of the future will be automated, too.

There's a lot of people in the world and not enough jobs.

It's part of automated Social Darwinism.


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A futuristic robotic ex-skeleton designed to boost the strength and endurance of US soldiers is to undergo final testing.

Defence firm Lockheed Martin has received a $1.1 million contract from the U.S. Army to test its next-generation HULC exoskeleton.

The battery-powered device can sense the soldier's individual movements and lets him carry weights of up to 200lbs.

It has a maximum speed of 7mph over long distances with the possibility of a sudden burst of 10mph when required.
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posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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In this thread, I have not said anything positive or negative about military service. All I said was how I am going to stop trying to convince young people to join the military. Tuition assistance was usually the only thing that would peak the interest of those I would try to persuade.

I have nothing against the military, or those who served. I said it at least once, here on ATS, and I'll repeat it in this thread. I do not respect any American man who has not served in our nations military, excepting those who are medically disqualified.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 03:51 PM
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I never implied that you said anything negative about the military.

I've served. There was a saying about the military: The experience was worth a million dollars, but I wouldn't do it again for a million dollars.

Anyway, that was a saying popular after World War Two when my dad came home from some rough times.

Rough times build character.

What makes an individual want to go through the hardships of SEAL training? That is pure physical and mental torture. Yet, young men and women gravitate toward the challenge. A lot of them wash out and never become Special Ops type soldiers.

The soldier of today will retire from the military to go into the higher paying brackets of private security service. That is more common than joining the military to become a Harvard Business School Graduate. I can understand why the military doesn't pay a soldier to go to Harvard Business School. They're in the military to do military work.

The military is like every other form of Social Darwinism. The good excel. The not so good sink.

Anyone who attempts to paint a purely Rosey Picture of military life should be summarily tied to their bunk and beaten with soap bars wrapped in towels.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by coltcall
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I never implied that you said anything negative about the military.

I've served. There was a saying about the military: The experience was worth a million dollars, but I wouldn't do it again for a million dollars.

Anyway, that was a saying popular after World War Two when my dad came home from some rough times.

Rough times build character.

What makes an individual want to go through the hardships of SEAL training? That is pure physical and mental torture. Yet, young men and women gravitate toward the challenge. A lot of them wash out and never become Special Ops type soldiers.

The soldier of today will retire from the military to go into the higher paying brackets of private security service. That is more common than joining the military to become a Harvard Business School Graduate. I can understand why the military doesn't pay a soldier to go to Harvard Business School. They're in the military to do military work.

The military is like every other form of Social Darwinism. The good excel. The not so good sink.

Anyone who attempts to paint a purely Rosey Picture of military life should be summarily tied to their bunk and beaten with soap bars wrapped in towels.


Although I don't agree with the idea of a blanket party for any reason. The rest, well said!

As for your comment about SEAL training, I can only speak for myself. I will make it clear I did not go to SEAL training, I was hurt and medically retired at 11 years. I did actively pursue it and in my pursuit became a Rescue Swimmer amongst other things, command politics played a huge part in me not getting to BUDS but my thoughts were always that peoples lives depended on me and I owed it to them to be the very best I could be. I hate to say it but It didn't take long to realize that not many in the general ranks thinks this way. Anyway i wanted to serve with the best not a bunch of half wits, not all of course but there's a lot of them.
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posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 04:33 PM
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I didn't join the military for tuition assistance. I joined, because I felt a sense of duty to my country. My father, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, and so on were also members of our nations military.

I would do it all again, despite being grievously injured through my military service. If called out of retirement, to militarily serve my nation again , I would freely report to duty.



posted on Mar, 19 2013 @ 04:40 PM
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Yeah....it's tough when someone tries to give their all for their country.....WHILE WE WATCH SOCIALISTS COMPLAIN THEY CAN'T BUY LOTTERY TICKETS WITH THEIR FOOD STAMP CARDS.

Ah, well....for all those who have given a LOT in military service....we fight to preserve the Constitution of the United States in your honor.

Hey, I could spend more time deep sea fishing than being politically involved in fighting the socialist agenda. But I do know what it was like to see my comrades in arms not be as lucky as I was.

So, I spend a little more time fighting the good fight.

....and a drubbing with soap wrapped in towels ain't the worse beating in the world. We never hit the guy in vital areas. And we basically pulled our punches....cause we never knew when it could come our time to get a spanking....
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