I'll admit it's literally been a few decades since I took the oath, but the way they write things these days wouldn't this be a breach of contract concerning this?

This was/is one of the ways they get ppl to enlist, by offering a free education. If it's in your contract when you sign up... (IANAL)

As for those that say boo hoo you have to pay too, suck it. I may not agree where our govt sends our troops but they're still our sons & daughters.

It truly is a shame. These men and women are constantly safeguarding our freedoms and our government basically Sh%ts on them. It is truly a terrible deed.

To be very clear, it was the Air Force who made this decision, not "the Government" or anyone else. Sequestration, which many on this site wanted to see happen, caused across the board cuts, but it is up to the various services and agencies to decide how best to achieve those cuts. This is one of the ways the Air Force chose to cut expenses. It sucks, but it is reality at the moment.

I suggest you all visit one of the many "Sequestration Won't Hurt Anyone" threads and point out to those idiots that the cuts do matter, and they do hurt everyone in some way, especially those who deserve the most support, our armed forces.

Maybe the tuition assistance was an experiment that didn't work out as planned when they started recruiting anybody and everybody into the military, lowering standards to fill ranks. Some of these lower standards aren't going to have the brain levels to tolerate anything a college could give them.

Have you seen it from an outsider's perspective? There are two ways a soldier goes after the military. One, they go up; they get the happy family with the yellow lab, the career, they use their tuition for good. Two, they go down; their sole purpose for joining in the first place is to get the skills to hurt people, get some other sort of lab, be intimidating in a gang at a college selling junk for an addiction, that way if their health goes down they can find their chums at a VA and blame it on ptsd, all the while trashing the people (civilians) who didn't get to serve.

So you might say, oh no, now the happy families won't be so educated and won't break into a higher paid career. Another person would say thank you for not sending more users to universities on a free ride while they break their community in half. Personally, I have seen the second variety of soldiers making lives at home miserable and when I realized that those military exploiters weren't getting more, I'm glad. It hurts the good men and women but they are going to go out and be good anyways, tuition or not.

It's fair to everybody. It would be unfair if they started giving college support to only those that got up in the ranks in the military, which I think might be on the table in the future. This is just sequester stuff happening. They're restructuring things again.

Look, the women are in. Maybe now that the women are in they can't afford to pay everybody. Maybe some old guy up in the decision tree is thinking with 1950s values.

Originally posted by schadenfreude
I'll admit it's literally been a few decades since I took the oath, but the way they write things these days wouldn't this be a breach of contract concerning this?

This was/is one of the ways they get ppl to enlist, by offering a free education. If it's in your contract when you sign up... (IANAL)

As for those that say boo hoo you have to pay too, suck it. I may not agree where our govt sends our troops but they're still our sons & daughters.

If it's specifically listed in the service contract as a listed benefit, then it could very well be a breach of contract. However, I know that tort action lawsuits have been disallowed by servicemen and that prior cases of breach of contract in regards to military enlistment contracts have been dismissed in the courts. Even if it is for certain a breach of contract (and it sure smells like one), the hope of recourse is pretty slim. I find that to be one of the most disturbing factors in regards to enlistment. It's almost a total stripping of rights in some ways.

Being a former Marine who took advantage of TA almost my entire time serving, I feel horrible for the men and women who are busting their ass for their country to be betrayed like this. Money is wasted is so many ways that it's nearly impossible to keep track of it all, yet they are going to let our military suffer.


It's important to keep our military happy and fulfilled. Not everyone is meant to go to college right away or even at all; the reason why so many people with bachelor's degrees can't find jobs is because too many people are going to college. Since EVERYONE can get a student loan since they just want more ways to make us debt slaves, it's common knowledge that these days in order to get a GOOD job with good $$$ you need a post Masters/PhD.

That all being said, if kids no longer feel like the military is a good option then even more and more people will take out their student loans and go to college clueless and unmotivated.

When I was 18 there was no way I was ready for college. I didn't start going til I was 21, with 3 years of discipline that I received from the Corps under my belt and ready to kick ass in school. I didn't need to put myself in debt with student loans either cause TA paid for it.

This really is a sad moment in our history.

Tuition Assistance Suspended for our servicemen and women but we have 250M to send to the terrorist muslim brotherhood Gov in Egypt. What does that tell you about Obama.

Originally posted by knightrider078
Tuition Assistance Suspended for our servicemen and women but we have 250M to send to the terrorist muslim brotherhood Gov in Egypt. What does that tell you about Obama.

This is not Obama's doing... it's the lack of Congress adequately forming a budget for FY 2013 for the DoD. He's proposed a budget to Congress that only slightly reduced the DoD budget and increased taxes for the wealthy. Congress turned it down. The real issue is Congress here...

Originally posted by SilentKillah

Originally posted by knightrider078
Tuition Assistance Suspended for our servicemen and women but we have 250M to send to the terrorist muslim brotherhood Gov in Egypt. What does that tell you about Obama.

This is not Obama's doing... it's the lack of Congress adequately forming a budget for FY 2013 for the DoD. He's proposed a budget to Congress that only slightly reduced the DoD budget and increased taxes for the wealthy. Congress turned it down. The real issue is Congress here...

The Budget of the United States Government begins as the President's proposal to the U.S. Congress and for 5 years he has not proposed one.

Originally posted by knightrider078

Originally posted by SilentKillah

Originally posted by knightrider078
Tuition Assistance Suspended for our servicemen and women but we have 250M to send to the terrorist muslim brotherhood Gov in Egypt. What does that tell you about Obama.

This is not Obama's doing... it's the lack of Congress adequately forming a budget for FY 2013 for the DoD. He's proposed a budget to Congress that only slightly reduced the DoD budget and increased taxes for the wealthy. Congress turned it down. The real issue is Congress here...

The Budget of the United States Government begins as the President's proposal to the U.S. Congress and for 5 years he has not proposed one.

Again... you have no clue what you're talking about. The President has proposed a budget consisting of an increase in taxes on wealthy and smaller cuts on programs. Congress keeps denying them because they refuse tax hikes on the wealthy. The President then developed Sequestration as a means to make things so bad that Congress would either have to give in or propose something better. They did neither. So we are now faced with the President's budget... which he attempted to avert numerous times, called "Sequester". This was in fact his second budget (and law) if Congress didn't act on their behalf by approving his budget or coming up with something they considered better. So if he never proposed a budget, then who came up with this budget we currently face (sequestration)? Get your facts straight.

Originally posted by SilentKillah

Originally posted by dave_welch
I sure hope they leave the MGIB alone. I don't understand why they always go after the enlisted guy's wallet first..

Gi Bill is VA... not DoD. DoD has no control over VA budget... separate department of the government.

Thank God (Allah, Buddha, Ba'al, or whomever you believe in) for small favors.

Just a theory, but you don't really want intelligent people to fight for your insane plans across the world. The less intelligent and educated, the less they question your commands.