reply to post by darkbake
It's ironic/funny you bring up learning false information . . . that's what this whole thread exemplifies, as does America in general.
Liberalism is derived from the writing/philosophy of John Locke, which is rooted in the rights of the individual. The comments about "liberals" in
this country not being liberal is spot on. They are Progressives and that is a left leaning Collectivist philosophy. Nothing liberal about their
ideology or policies. Austrian economic theory is based on Laissez Faire economics, which is exemplified by a free and open market devoid of tariff,
tax, and subsidies. There is no place for Corporatism in the current Anachro-Capitalist form of Austrian theory, proposed by Rothsbard. Progressives
like to put it there to make themselves appear to be "for the people" . . . even though it's a collective practice and benefits much more from the
If you want to delve into the left/right divide . . . let's look at the extremes on both sides. Left - Communism/Socialism. Right - Facism (like the
NAZI party). So, instead of squabbling over the differences, which is merely in practice, let's look at how they are the same. They are all
Collectivist ideologies, meaning the whole outweighs the individual. Quigley explained the whole left/right paradigm sham in "Tragedy and Hope" and
how the US use this to continue Collectivist policy, while appearing to provide a choice:
The argument of two parties should represent opposed ideas and policies, one perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea
acceptable only to doctrinate and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the
rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. The policies that are vital and necessary for America
are no longer subjects of significant disagreement, but are disputable only in details of procedure, priority, or method
The antithesis of this would be Individualism. Yet, through using the methods of Lippman (Public Opinion) and Bernays (Crystallizing Public Opinion
and Propaganda), our government has given all of the illusion that there is actually a difference between the Left and Right. When, in actuallity,
they are both Collectivist groups simply fighting over who will be the dominant team.
When there are actual Individualist movements that benefit the citizens, they are quickly gobbled up by one side or the other and subverted. The Tea
Party, Libertarianism, Civil Rights movement, Occupy, etc . . . subverted and then either marginalized or propagandized to limit their individual
rights aspects. Again, through the brilliant use of the methods outlined by Lippman and Bernays. We all either end up "crazy", "unpatriotic",
"racist", "religious extremists", "domestic terrorists", "communists", etc, etc, etc.
And, while we all point fingers back and forth and feel some sense of pride when our team wins . . . the march continues to crush the individual and
the free market. Meanwhile . . . Clinton's Anti-Terrorism bill becomes Bush's Patriot Act becomes Obama's NDAA.
The people of this country have all been bamboozled . . . willingly. More people should really think for themselves and pick up a book, once and a
while. If those on a "conspiracy theory" site can't even see through the spiritual malaise of being played by both sides, only to keep us divided,
really what hope does America have? Guess I'll just go back to buying apps on my iPad . . .
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