Parents lose custody of children for a month after innocent bathtime photos developed at Walmart

but the moral of the story is arent we glad we have child protection services that just rip your kids out of your house, molest them, and if found guilty on any kind of charge make a ton selling the kids to adoption services and get a nice side bonus. ^^

Originally posted by AnonyWarp
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

They went through the proper process, the children were protected

its a bit different.

The parents lost custody for a month and registered as sex offender BEFORE being judged INNOCENTS.

Unfortunately with child services, that is the proper procedure. Also, if any abuse happens in your family and you don't report it right away, your children will be taken away from you for child neglect. Child neglect basically equals child abuse. Your name will be put on a child abuse register that can be tapped into by employers, and you will not be able to get any job dealing with children. This is not the sex offenders list mind you.

Even if you do report the incident, they still can take away the kids because you failed to protect the kids. If you were their, then the incident should not have happened. If you were not there, then you should have known not to trust and leave the person, whether husband, wife, other retaliative, or babysitter, with the child.

I know there is no law that says mothers have to report their husbands for suspected child abuse like doctors, counselors, and others do. According to a handbook that I happened to obtain from the department of human services, child abuse is defined by any recent act or failure to act. With the failure to act, in many cases means failure to report even though it doesn't out right say so, you will be listed as perpetrator along with the person who allegedly abused the child.

Many mothers who haven't reported their spouse, boyfriend, and etc for what ever reason are taken totally by surprise when CYS comes in, lists them as a perpetrator, and removes their children. Sometimes there was a reason to report, and many other times there was no reason except someone hated them or have strict weird ideas of what is actually child abuse.

I don't blame parents now a days when they don't let their kids out to play like they use to. You never know if a CYS worker lives near you, or who would think it is child neglect/abuse if you even let your 13 year old walk alone down the street to their bus stop or to a friends house.

So it seems that moral law is
absolute and objective in
spite of the feelings
that it is not by the
naturalists and polytheists.

reply to post by SubSea


Puritanical attitudes, aka strong morals and values,
is what has prevented a majority of sordid crimes.

Morals and values are objective and absolute laws.
Like math, science and logic are objective absolute law.

reply to post by ollncasino


Yeah, I was a bit confused about who posted the original comment. Thank you for the correction and I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.

Originally posted by skoalman88

Yeah, I was a bit confused about who posted the original comment. Thank you for the correction and I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.

No problem. I was afraid of people associating me in any way with kiddie fiddling sites.

I'm sure you understand.

Originally posted by IBelieveInAliens

Originally posted by Creep Thumper
People shouldn't be taking naked photos of their kids. It's weird.

What is the purpose? A picture with their clothes on isn't good enough?

Again, you obviously don't have kids , or you wouldn't be making such a ridiculous observation. I'm guessing you're about 14.

I don't think we should make such judgments about people. You don't know this person.

The question is valid.

I've been on this site a couple of weeks and the one big thing I've noticed is that there are a lot of very ugly people here.

Don't know if anyone's said this yet, but if I lived in America (And outraged by this as most of you are) I would boycott Walmart altogether.

That would teach them.

The damage done by the boycott would greatly outweigh the cost of the £75k fine imposed (If that even happens).

Unfortunately, not enough people will here about this, and not enough people will care. They'll just carry on being sheep and won't mind that corporations can snoop on their business and and make false accusations against them, that could potentially land them in prison.

Very outraged by this story

something similar happened when my son was 3. on the roll of film, there were a variety of typical kid pictures (the park, a beach, etc). also, there were a few of bath time. when i got the developed pictures back, the bath time pictures were not there. when i complained, i was told that those photos could be considered pornographic and i should be glad that they didn't report me to the police!
i am not a confrontational person, so i let it go. sometimes i wish i had made a big deal about it. i do believe that not only was it an invasion of my family's privacy, but the pictures were clearly not of a pornographic nature (unless the viewer is a sick pedophile and in that case, anything could be pornographic!)
my heart goes out to this family. so much innocence is gone from this world and what remains seems to be ripped from our bewildered hands.

Originally posted by cleversprite
something similar happened when my son was 3. on the roll of film, there were a variety of typical kid pictures (the park, a beach, etc). also, there were a few of bath time. when i got the developed pictures back, the bath time pictures were not there. when i complained, i was told that those photos could be considered pornographic and i should be glad that they didn't report me to the police!
i am not a confrontational person, so i let it go. sometimes i wish i had made a big deal about it. i do believe that not only was it an invasion of my family's privacy, but the pictures were clearly not of a pornographic nature (unless the viewer is a sick pedophile and in that case, anything could be pornographic!)
my heart goes out to this family. so much innocence is gone from this world and what remains seems to be ripped from our bewildered hands.

Get a backbone and contact the company right now and demand to know what happened to those pictures. How do you know some pervert employee didn't take them home for his/her own masturbatory pleasures?

Click here for more information.

You are now all filthy pedo scum for viewing images of naked baby bathtime. I hope you all burn in Hell. Obvilusly I'm being ironic but my message is that quite a few people on this thread appear to think that this type of thing is wrong. Filming your own children in the bath is suspect etc. Really? Watch the damn video and tell me it's suspect.

And I stand by my previous assertion that the people on this thread who have stated they think it's wrong to take pictures of your naked kids, are very likely to NOT be parents themselves and just do not have the slightest comprehension of what they're talking about.

Originally posted by 3point14
reply to post by IBelieveInAliens

 

You are a nasty piece of work. I feel sorry for your wife.

To which of my posts are you referring? And don't feel sorry for my wife, she's married to a really great guy.

Originally posted by shapur
reply to post by ollncasino

 

I have heard from a friend of mine that there are some sites which expose children and they make tons of money by selling the pictures and movies to their clients!...You cant blame people to be a little suspicious of nude kiddy pictures.

Actually, you CAN blame people when their suspicions cause you to unfairly lose your children.

This wasn't from a web-site....this family went to a Wal-Mart and had their FAMILY photos developed. There was nothing sexual what so ever about the photos, merely naked children.

I'm a father, and I'm pretty sure EVERY parent seems their kid naked every day when the kid is still an infant, toddler, or young child.

I have TONS of photos of my son playing in the bath, and I'm sure almost all parents do as well.

It is absurd when you have to be afraid of taking photos of your own child these days.

I really can't believe this thread is still going, especially since when catching up from my last post, it's pretty much just the same arguments being tossed back and forth.

People explaining in good detail the innocence behind the pictures, why they're taken, and why there's nothing wrong with them.

Then someone just touting back that it's wrong, and they don't get it.

The thing is, if you don't get it after reading all these posts, then you never will. I really hope some of those people don't have children, because with that mindset, it seems that the children could possibly be very repressed. I've seen what happens to children who's parents completely do everything they can do protect their child from every aspect of life. They go extremely wild once they're away from the parents. They want to live, and to experience.

The only thing I really want to say is that those that feel this sort of stuff is wrong, you are entitled to your own opinion. But don't you tell people that something they did, which has been done for centuries through paintings, then photos.....something that has always been innocent, just happy family memories saved so they can reminisce later in life, either with themselves, or even with their children.....don't you dare tell people they are wrong, all because you can't get your own mind out of the gutter.

The only ones turning these innocent photos into something worse, is you. If you don't like that, then I'm sorry, but it's the truth.

Awful scenario.

As a parent, I couldn't imagine this kind of experience. I'd be enraged to no end......but....

Walmart did the right thing. What went wrong was after it was reported. These children should never have been removed upon the evidence of these pictures alone. Absent a CLEAR indication of sex abuse, the most that should have happened was an investigation into the matter further. Instead, the State victimized these children and their parents without real cause.

No one won that day- these children....their parents...or any of the real victims of sexual abuse.


:shk:

There's ridiculous and then there's ridiculous. This was beyond ridiculous. What else can someone say? Common sense anyone?

I wouldnt blame Walmart employees, even tough they may be prone to see pedophilia everywhere it is not their expertise to judge it and better safe than sorry. I blame the state apparatus. They are the ones responsible for what this family went through, and they are the ones who ought to pay the damages.

I strongly disagree with any child being taken from their parents by authorities.

Without seeing the photos in question though, I don't know who to side with.

Obviously all of us parents have photos of their children bathing. There's nothing wrong with that, we took the photo because they looked so cute with bubbles on their faces.

However there are indeed some people who go too far with the photo snapping. Asking the children to do suggestive poses. I've seen this being done and upon receiving the photo , it didn't sit right with me. I imagine whoever reported these photos, perhaps felt the same way. If it doesn't feel right, it doesn't feel right. I don't think in the photos I saw, they were pedophelia but just a silly idea by the parent.

There are Pervs out there that get off on photos like these if they're posted online, which is what most parents do these days with their social media accounts. That's the problem I see here. You don't know who's looking at them. They take videos of them dancing to a song and shaking their bum as seen in the music video. "Isn't it cute?". No it isn't actually. They think its cute their kid can dance like the music video, such talent. They post them online, exposing their children to potentially dangerous situations without even a thought. They might not be the pervert behind the camera but once its distributed is another story. We should be guarding our children at all times. This is a 24/7 job.

If these people believe in nudity and these nudists profess this is not sexual, I'm sure it isn't to them, but what about the voyeurs? Are these children running around nude when company is over visiting? When its bath time, are the children dressed immediately or running around with just a Towell for an hour, Jumping up and down, sitting on visitors laps, no panties on? I've been in homes where this is happening and I should not have to be the mature one saying put some panties on, get dressed. Or I tell the child to get down when I see one lap sitting going on too long.

It doesn't mean if I saw something sexually suggestive in a photo or video it turned me on or that I have any sexual hang ups. Not in the least. I see some of the posts here alluding to this. As to the poster above who says some parents go too far and are repressing the children, that is also true. You have to know how to balance these things.

reply to post by shapur


Little kids in towels? really what kind of a idiotic world do you live in to suspect that this is child pornography? Unless you're perverted to actually think of it that way.
People are so dense these days with no common sense. We can play the "what if" game with anything.
Because of people like the fellow that works at walmart, this country has turn upside down.
If I were the parents after getting the kids back, I would sue all those that were involve in this, especially walmart.
Where is the privacy? apparently nonexistence.