reply to post by ModernAcademia
Leaving socialism and or more precisely that which is perceived or labeled by so many as socialism aside, I see a popular impression of capitalism at
its best to be a free and unfettered system of exchange. This for that. Lets trade. I need that and you need this. So lets do it.
However I do not think that this is possible. Maybe not impossible, but certainly not probable. In my observations of humanity, I find that there are
too many differences , or maybe not differences, but variations in the manner in which we approach the basics of human consciousness.
There seem to be people for whom enough is enough, while there also seems to be people for whom enough is not enough. We can wallow in this
description if you wish but I hope I clearly expressed myself here.
Now capitalism would surely be a perfect system of free exchange if everyone were of the enough is enough type. But we do not seem to be. Where does
the category of enough is not enough end. That group that is bound to the concept of more, more and more. Do the enough is enough people have any way
of putting the skids on the more more more people? Do the more more more people have any internal mechanism which holds them from just reaching for
more and more again? The invisible hand?
The invisible hand might be argued. That the breakdown in the system would be prevented by the own best self interest of the more more more realizing
that the whole system is in peril due to the over satiation of their own self guided interests? Human history is replete though, with examples of
humans allowed to over develop their own best self interest. Kings, Tzars, CEOs who never have enough. NEVER.
Now if we had an unlimited environment, a never ending land of resources we might be able to get away with a completely free market. Let the enough is
enough have their, enough. Let the enough is not enough have their more more more etc. However we do not live in this world of unending resource. We
live in a world of limits.
Enough and not enough cannot live side by side.
I would like to see a form of capitalism where you improve your situation and I improve mine. I am an individual with people, wife, children, etc, who
depend upon my ability to secure for myself and for them a reasonably secure existence. I am confidently sure you are also. Yet we live in a world of
limits. So here is where we get down to the nitty gritty.
I am not a social Darwinist. Darwin came along and the concept of survival of the fittest took on a life of its own. However this is only a simplified
version of evolutionary science. This simplified version took on a life of its own and was turned into an excuse for the more is more people to
continue to take more more more at the expense of others. It is only survival of the fittest. This concept is hierarchical.
If we accept hierarchical systems as natural then we are stumped. All we can do is scramble as hard as we can to crawl higher on the pyramid. We
cannot complain that those who oppress us or take from us or whatever are wrong. They are only higher on the totem pole and it is their right as is
our right to do that to those under us. At the same time those who are under us have every right to crawl higher, even if it is at our expense. This
is a never ending cycle which is excused by a hierarchical system.
When my right to provide for me and mine takes precedence over YOUR right to do the same we end up in eternal conflict. This is why I do not think
that capitalism in it's present form no longer serves us as a viable means of exchange. If you are willing to kill me and mine for your needs to be
met, then so be it. You will do what you will do. I will not.
A basic tenant of capitalism is expansion.Capital must be used to expand. This is why your basic mom and pop is in jeopardy. Mom and pop are not
capitalist. For mom and pop, enough is enough, and mom and pop can not compete much longer in a system of more more more. Dog eat dog. McDonalds is
Ahhhhchhhh. That is more than enough of your time. I ramble and ramble and apologize if I have not gotten more specific as both of us wish I might.