For Profit Prisons -- Are You Insane?!, page 1


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Topic started on 5-3-2013 @ 08:04 PM by tothetenthpower
How did this ever happen?

Here's the Wikipedia version of a private prison. And below is a WONDERFUL article written by Global Research.

A private prison or for-profit prison, jail, or detention center is a place in which individuals are physically confined or interned by a third party that is contracted by a government agency. Private prison companies typically enter into contractual agreements with governments that commit prisoners and then pay a per diem or monthly rate for each prisoner confined in the facility.


The Prison Industry in the United States: Big Business or a New Form of Slavery?

What has happened over the last 10 years? Why are there so many prisoners?

“The private contracting of prisoners for work fosters incentives to lock people up. Prisons depend on this income. Corporate stockholders who make money off prisoners’ work lobby for longer sentences, in order to expand their workforce. The system feeds itself,” says a study by the Progressive Labor Party, which accuses the prison industry of being “an imitation of Nazi Germany with respect to forced slave labor and concentration camps.”


Somebody explain to me how anybody thought this was a good idea? How are we to have reformed prisoners, when the actual goal of the private industry is to continue to make money.

As pointed out above, no prisoners equal no profit. This means they have a vested interest in keeping a lot of people in jail for longer. What you get usually is the following:

*Longer Sentences On Minor Crime
*Minimum Sentences On Major Crime and Minor Crime
*Ambiguous changes to the state and federal code as to what constitutes a crime or not.
*The Exponential Growing Prison Population.

This is a MAJOR issue. Think about how many people are denied voting rights. Think of all the tax income we'd get from the 1 million people currently in jail for non-violent offenses, that should NOT include jail time.

You all are bleeding money from every point, yet can still afford a Prison Industrial Complex that ONLY supports private corporations and line their pockets.

Let's not even get into the forced slavery of the inmates, having to work for cents on the dollar for in some cases brutal work that you'd have to pay VERY good wages to anybody otherwise.

~Tenth
edit on 3/6/2013 by tothetenthpower because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 08:44 PM by Guenter
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This is exactly the issue what is wrong with 'capitalism' and 'individualism' - also the moment one criticizes it one becomes a 'commi'.
Money has no conscience. 100$ can buy food, fuel, rent, a prostitute, drugs or a prison. common sense is legislated away and as long there is unchecked profits to be made there will be incentives to 'invent' new crimes' etc.
What our world has to find is a new understanding of community. Where we again become a people and identify as a people. Where the WHOLE of us shares the wealth of its nations and shares its responsibilities. We all know it 'costs' to keep people in prison. So do we want to have more people in prison so that a few can make profit for themselves? I am not about to start a rant for socialism or communism. We need something new! A common unity and ownership defined as a stewardship for the common good of all. We have to begin to understand that the happiness and equality of all people ensures us safety. And if wealth is not distributed evenly, and the have not begin to seek an income outside the law, than no matter how we much more criminalize each action, it will only get worse. Pvt prison systems are finally showing us how far we have been led 'willingly' into the abyss.


reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 08:48 PM by sirhumperdink
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thats not entirely true
they demanded a guarantee that they would be paid for a minimum occupancy rate of 90% (and hey if youre paying for a service you may as well use it right?)

i would also like to ad many prisons will force prisoners to reimburse them for their own imprisonment or will allow prisoners to work for reductions of their sentence in lieu of a wage (essentially turning them into indentured servants who must work their way to being free men)


reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 09:17 PM by tothetenthpower
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Perhaps my OP was a bit vague? I am stating exactly what you have. Corporations who control prisons have a vested interest in keeping occupancy high.

This means that in conjunction with keeping inmates in longer, they also engage in lobbying efforts among other things to increase the amount of offenses that can include/lead to imprisonment sentences.

~Tenth


reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 09:44 PM by nrthstar
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Corporations are going as far as hiring inmates to actually work for them as marketers. The inmates are not lying when they introduce themselves and the companies they are representing. They "cold call" and collect all sorts of private information, meanwhile, the person on the other end of the line is oblivious.

Money is everything to corporate America, even if it means enslavement, as mentioned by many.


reply posted on 5-3-2013 @ 11:43 PM by crankyoldman
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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Perhaps my OP was a bit vague? I am stating exactly what you have. Corporations who control prisons have a vested interest in keeping occupancy high.

This means that in conjunction with keeping inmates in longer, they also engage in lobbying efforts among other things to increase the amount of offenses that can include/lead to imprisonment sentences.

~Tenth



You were clear, the point is they are only doing what they are told to do. Others are instituting the system, in spite of the fact that NO regular joe like you and I would agree this is either civilized or a good idea. Few "constituents," if any would ever agree to this, but someone is making it happen. Those folks simply hate nearly all humans.



reply posted on 6-3-2013 @ 03:24 AM by mardukiscoming
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[moThis has been going on for quite some time.I spent time in a corporate run prison in Texas in the 90's.As far as prisons go it was a hell of a lot nicer than a state run prison.Now whether that is a good thing or bad would definitely depend on which side of the fence your on. At the private facility the food was noticeably better,and security tighter.The unit I was in was only medium security as I was a non-violent offender.I would assume the private run High Security units,if there are any,are much different.Honestly,I have not put much thought in to the Texas prison system since I was a guest there.One thing I will say,now that I am no longer an inmate,is that in my opinion,the prisons are much too easy and accomodating.Hard time should be hard.
At the time I was an inmate the rumor circulating was that Texas had dozens of brand new facilities sitting empty,waiting for future convicts to be shipped in from other states.I cannot say if this were true,but I would not be surprised.
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