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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 12:47 PM
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A couple of years ago I learned, from my family, of a connection between my recent family and a distant star, named Alpha Cygni. My scientific mind led me to investigate that myth.

During my investigations I came across something very intriguing: the NWO's alleged higher-ranking family (Dark Nobility) seems to think they have the same link to Alpha Cygni, too. Further queries proved this. I came to call these families, whose actions in the world are so contreversed, "the Dark Swans".

For those who are new to astronomy, Alpha Cygni (also called Deneb) is located at the Swan constellation's tail. Here's a map by famous astronomer Bayer: The Swan Constellation

Let's take a look at this Mystery of the Dark Swans.

First of all, I will start by the most obvious of all contreversed families, the Collins.


One of the bloodlines goes back to Babylon and are descendent from Nimrod. Down through the years the occult world has remained hidden from the history books. (Publishing and education have been controlled privileges.) They have ruled behind the scenes. The Mystery Religions each had their secret councils which ruled them, and these councils themselves came under the guidance of a secret supreme Grand Council or Governing Body. The Mystery Religions in turn ruled the masses and the political leaders. When I first began investigating the Illuminati a clear picture developed that the history books were doctored, and that great power was concentrated in the hands of oligarchies around the world. But who were these powerful people? I have been repeatedly asked, "If there is a conspiracy who are the conspirators?" That is what this book is about. The history books are full of information about the elites and the masses. Interestingly, upon very close scrutiny and examination the investigator finds that the elite have perpetuated their power for centuries, and have worked hand in glove with other elites to control the masses. […]When seen in better light, wars between kings no longer appear as wars between elite factions, but contrived wars to control the masses by their greedy elite masters. But who are these people? The answer may not be the answer some might expect, because power comes in many shapes and sizes. Power doesn't have to have high visibility to be active. In fact, due to the evil dark nature of these evil bloodlines they have traditionally tried to remain secret. I am indebted to people who have stepped out of the generational Satanic bloodlines of the Illuminati and who have given their lives to Christ for many of the tips which got my investigations on the right track. This book tells what many witnesses of generational Satanism would like to tell, but are too intimidated to tell. Witnesses like Tom Collins, and John Todd, and David Hill have tried to testify what they themselves saw--they each were destroyed. But the truth will not die with Tom Collins or David Hill. The truth did not go out of fashion just because John Todd was framed and dishonored by the Illuminati's henchmen. Several people from different places have confirmed that there are 13 Illuminati bloodlines. Further, several ex-Illuminati people have confirmed my list of 13 families.



The Collins Bloodline
The next family in our series of articles on the top 13 Illuminati families is the Collins family, The first two have been the Astor family and the Bundy family. The first two articles were fairly straightforward. Both the Astor and Bundy families have been written about by others, and I had more information on both families than I needed for my articles. In fact I left out worthwhile details in both artides in order to keep the articles to a comfortable length. […]The following is a description of a highly secret high level Satanic meeting. It comes via an ex-insider who is now a Christian. If any other ex-hierarchy person is reading this, perhaps this will trigger some memories for you. This experience dates to 1955. This is a meeting that is held twice yearly, and to which the Rothschilds and all the mother families attend. The meeting is inside in a big room, and the Grande Mother on the throne was a Collins. The Collins family has been kept out of the limelight because they have more occult power than the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers. To make money this Collins family does something financially, such as deal with the exchange of money. I've noticed that numerous Collins have been Insurance Executives, and although I haven't exposed the connections between Insurance Companies and the NWO, there is a book out which shows how they most insurance companies are connected and under the guidance of the NWO elite. The Grande Mother Collins dressed in black has an ebony and gold moon shaped throne that she can automatically rotate by pushing a pedal with her foot. Behind her sits the Grand Council with 13 members --this might be or might not be the Grand Druid Council that you will read about further on. The difference between this council in 1955 is that it was all males, while the council in 1978 has several women on it.. The Grande Mother, a Collins woman was thought to be in her middle 50's at the time of this meeting, she had a deep dictatorial voice, was small in stature, and was very powerful. She was decked out on her throne with a great deal of jewelry. One of the first things done was to lay before her feet small gold bricks (shaped like small bricks and made of pure gold). Two boys, who were taken to be her sons, one of whom was Tom Collins, (Tom was later gunned down by the Illuminati) were near her throne. As only the most honored and powerful dared be in the vicinity of her throne, this showed that these two Collins boys were powerful. The boys passed out papers, which had time tables written on them of things that were to happen. A great discussion was carried on about what had happened in the world to bring in Satan's One-World-Government during the last six months and what was prepared to happen in the near future. Things that had not gone according to plan were discussed. The Ark of the Covenant was discussed, where it was hidden in Africa, and a ritual mocking the Ark of the Covenant was held. […]Seven children in white were brought in from generational Satanic families and presented before Grande Mother Collins. They laid prostrate in worship of her. She would move her scepter with a snake up and down striking the floor to show approval of a child candidate. Then 7 other children were sacrificed for the 7 approved children, one for each child, whose name would then be written with a quill using the sacrificed child's blood. The children were given oaths. The Grande Mother rotated her throne and faced the Council of 13 and declared (speaking in English) "This is tomorrow's generation, a chosen few." The John the Baptist of the Anti-Christ put in an appearance, but the anti-Christ at that time was not born or only a tiny baby. Was this BenjamIn Creme? The ex-insider didn't learn the name of this John the Baptist forerunner of the Anti-Christ. However, the descriptions of this occult John the Baptist do match BenjamIn Creme. Benjamin Creme was born in 1924, and was deeply into the occult and witchcraft even when he was a boy. (See the official newsletter of Tara Center Emergence, Jan 1982 Issue.) He claims that in 1959, he telepathically received a message from his Master, a member of the [demonic] hierarchy. Creme calls these master spirits simply the hierarchy, Christians know it is the demonic hierarchy. Because all these things are planned out well in advance, it would have been very appropriate if Creme had been at a high level planning meeting in 1955. For more understanding on Creme's Christ the reader is directed to read the article on the Sufis in thIs newsletter. (Referring back to the gold bricks laid before the Grande Mother's throne, there are several reasons that real gold is important to the Illuminati. Perhaps in some other article this newsletter will go into it all. There have been massive secret gold shipments out of the United States and Russia. Guess who is getting it.) In my 1/1/93 newsletter the names of many top Illuminati are given. One that could have been included is Robert Moore Collins (1867-? ) who was a member of the Pilgrims (60 of the modern equivalent of the Bavarian Illuminati.) Robert M. Collins was a reporter for several important newspapers and worked as an editor in the Washington and New York offices of the Associated Press. He did chiefly political work for the Associated Press. He was the chief newsman for Reuters (Illuminati controlled press) and the Associated Press for many stories coming out of the Orient. Although he was born in Wash., D.C., his address as an adult became Bournemouth, England. He never married. As those who investigate the Illuminati find out, the Illuminati control the press. Here was a man who helped do it for them Last newsletter issue (1/15/93) went into some detail about how important the Satanic Societas Rosicruciana is in relation to the Satanic groups such as the O.T.O., Golden Dawn, and Stella Matutina. The Societas Rosicruciana is definitely a high level exclusive Illumanati organization. One of the New York S.R. officers was James F. Collins (8') who died Apr. 2, 1896. He was with the original set of S.R. officers of the first High Council of the S.R. in America which had oversight over all the S.R. colleges (lodges) in America. His position was Presenter. (I don't know what that officer does.) When the Canadians set up a Societas Rosicruciana in Canada, the High Council which had oversight over all Canada included a Collins on its council, Daniel Collins, 8'. Daniel Collins had several positions on the council. The highest degree is the 9'. […]Remember, that the leading Satanists feel they have special blood, the top ones feel they are gods.


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Now today there are quite alot of people named Collins. There is Phil Collins the musician; there is Michael Collins, at Nasa, who went to the Moon with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin; there is Cardinal Thomas Collins; etc. And it's important to please note that not all Collins are following the Shadow - only some do.

Now, the mystery starts: In 2009, Nasa decided to investigate the presence of habitable planets in our galaxy. This knowledge of habitable planets could be used for future Nasa colonization missions, but also for the search of an extraterrestrial civilization. So, in 2009, they launched the Kepler Mission. Without really explaining why, they started by searching inside the left wing of the constellation of the Swan. Here's the picture from the official government website:



Obviously Nasa is looking for something in this location.

But the question is, what?

Perhaps Andrew Collins knows why Nasa choose the Swan.


xx. Children of the Swan

In the 1980s deep underground particle decay detectors in Europe and the United States, as well as ground-based air shower detectors, registered anomalous incoming cosmic rays unlike any others registered before.

They bore a 'fingerprint' periodicity of 4.8 hours, previously recorded in connection with X-rays and infrared radiation coming from a binary star system named Cygnus X-3, located some 30,000 lights years away on the other side of our galaxy.

Known to astrophysicists as a high mass X-ray binary, it consists of a tiny compact object, either a neutron star or black hole, that accretes, that is steals, mass from its huge companion, known as a Wolf-Rayet star. Visually speaking, Cygnus X-3 is located at the very centre of Cygnus's cross design, next to the star Sadr, even though dust and gas in the galactic plane obscure its presence in the optical range of frequencies.

The exact nature of the cosmic rays from Cygnus X-3 are extraordinary.

They are tens of thousands of times stronger than anything produced by particle accelerators, and since they are neutral (in that they have no charge) and arrive directly from Cygnus (as opposed to their route being distorted by the galactic gravitational field), it indicates that they travel here very close to the speed of light.



In addition to the qualities outlined so far, the strange particles from Cygnus X-3 are uniquely able to penetrate hundreds of meters of solid rock before finally crashing into atomic nuclei to form secondary particles, detected by deep underground facilities around the world.

No other point source cosmic ray, besides neutrinos - which are caused by nuclear fusion reactions in the sun and supernovae and pass through matter with almost no interaction - are known to do this.

This has led to speculation that cygnets are produced by exotic strange quark matter inside Cygnus X-3's suspected neutron star. Despite claims from many particle physicists that this data has to be erroneous, Cygnus X-3's cosmic rays keep coming, being last reported again in 2000.

Could it be possible that these same particles from Cygnus X-3 were being experienced deep underground as far back as Palaeolithic times, and did they in some way affect the ancient mindset to look towards Cygnus as the source of cosmic life and death?

The announcement in 2000 that Cygnus X-3 is quite possibly the first confirmed microblazar in the galaxy, with a one-side particle jet, or beam, pointing towards the Earth, has thrown considerable light on the nature of cygnets, and the importance of this binary star system.

Galactic blazars produce jets with relativistic, i.e. light speed, acceleration, easily creating the means for cygnets to reach the earth in the manner that they do.

Relativistic jets have been noted in connection with other stellar bodies in the galaxy, usually either black holes or neutron stars, but none of these have are aimed at the Earth, which is what singles Cygnus X-3 out as a microblazar as it has been termed so as not to confuse it with galactic blazar, associated with supermassive black holes at the centre of AGNs (Active Galactic Nuclei), millions if not billion of light years away from Earth.

Marking Cygnus X-3 out as even more unique is that only its cosmic rays are known to penetrate deep underground, something that might easily have been occurring since Palaeolithic times, simply because astrophysicists know that Cygnus X-3 has been in its current phase of evolution for up to 700,000 years.
Did our most ancient ancestors somehow become subtly aware of the existence of Cygnus X-3, most obviously during psychedelic experiences in deep cave settings?
Did they come to associate its proximity, i.e. the stars of Cygnus - Sadr and Deneb in particular - with cosmic creation and the transmigration of the soul?
Cosmic radiation might easily have contributed to changes in human behaviour, or even sudden accelerations in human evolution, especially during the Palaeolithic age, when cave art, cosmology, astronomy, intellect and possibly even transatlantic travel emerged for the first time.

However, this would have been a subtle process that took place over countless generations, and away from the harsher influence of indiscriminate cosmic rays bombarding the planet's surface from a host of different point sources.

More likely is that low level radiation, like that experienced by health seekers in radon mines today, was actually beneficial to the human body and mind, especially hundreds of meters underground where we know cosmic rays from Cygnus X-3 are able to penetrate.

Ice cores from Summit, Greenland, and Vostok, Antarctica, at the other end of the earth, show that levels of Beryllium-10, a radioactive substance created as a by product of cosmic ray interaction in the upper atmosphere, were more than double towards the end of the Last Ice Age, with massive peaks of activity around firstly c.40,000-37,000 BP and then again c.17,000-14,000 years ago.


Collins goes on by dubbing the Swan as home of God's Star:


xxi. The True God Star

In December 2005, an American scientific think tank called the Meinel Institute of Las Vegas, founded by former consultants to the NASA-linked JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), came forward and announced that it now believed that cosmic rays from a galactic binary system producing relativistic jets was responsible for a rapid acceleration in animal and human evolution around 40,000 years ago.

It was at this time that great changes occurred in human advancement, most obviously the appearance of anatomically modern human beings in Europe and Asia and the emergence of cave art.

The Meinels used the Beryllium-10 data produced by the Greenland ice cores to achieve a point source for the cosmic rays that reached Earth during this distant epoch, and although this led them initially to Cygnus, where they searched in vain for a possible microblazar, they eventually concluded that the only realistic source was the Cat's Eye nebula in neighbouring Draco, the dragon.

This, they believe, fits the data obtained from their detailed examination of the Greenland ice core data, which enabled them to deduce a suitable search area in the northern night sky.

However, top theorists on planetary nebulae are unable to accept the Meinel's candidate for the production of such powerful cosmic rays, since the Cat's Eye is deemed too weak, and no evidence exists to show that it produces high energy radiation that might ever have reached the earth.

More likely is that cosmic rays from Cygnus X-3 were able to more subtly influence human evolution during the Palaeolithic age, allowing our most ancient ancestors to become dimly aware of this point source of activity through prolonged shamanic experiences deep underground.

In addition to this, it becomes clear that the memory of this cosmic influence, seen as divine, was behind the emergence of religion, art and intellect.

This was abstractly recognized and preserved, eventually becoming the basis for the ancient cosmology behind the symbolism found even today among various world religions, including Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Hinduism.

This knowledge, added to Cygnus's omnipotent presence as the cosmic axis during the Palaeolithic epoch, must have had a profound affect on the ancient mindset.

Cygnus quite literally became the gateway to the realm of heaven, which brought forth cosmic life and death.






Postscript - Montgomery's 'Cygnus Event'

The March 2006 issue of ASTRONOMY NOW cites the findings of British anthropological writer Denis Montgomery.

In 1995 he proposed that high levels of Beryllium-10 in the Antarctic and Greenland ice cores for a period of 2,000 years, c. 35,000 BP, argue that sudden transitions in human behavior patterns around this time show that the two events are not exclusive to each other.

Most obviously, the flowering of cave art in Western Europe, c. 32,500-30,000 BP, is a clear sign that something quite extraordinary was taking place (and, of course, c. 17,000-14,000 BP, when further high levels of Be-10 are present in the same ice cores).

Based on suggestions made by American and Russian scientists working on the Greenland and Antarctica ice cores at the beginning of the 1990s, Montgomery proposed that the source of the cosmic rays was a close supernova, most likely the one that caused the beautiful stellar debris caught on camera by the Hubble space telescope and known to astronomers as the Cygnus Veil, or Cygnus Loop.

Located in the right wing of the celestial swan, the shock waves of this cosmic event were believed to have ripped open the Earth's protective layer of ozone, causing cosmic rays and ultraviolet radiation from the sun to rain down on the unsuspecting world beneath. For many years the exploding star would have been brighter than the full moon, making it a blinding light source that turned night into day.

Premature deaths, cancer and mutations would have resulted in both animals and humans on a massive scale.

Yet very gradually the supernova would have burnt out, and an immunity achieved by the human survivors, our own Homo sapien ancestors, who were the successors of the less adaptable Neanderthal peoples.

Even though the 35,000 BP cosmic event highlighted by the Be-10 levels in the ice cores alluded to Montgomery is the same as the one proposed by the Meinel Institute, said by them to have taken place c. 40,000 years ago, the suspected source of the cosmic rays is unlikely to have been the Cygnus Veil, or Loop.

This is now known to have been created when a dying super giant in this suspected binary system exploded into a supernova just 5,000 to 8,000 years ago.

Moreover, at worst this spectacular event, which would have temporarily made it one of the brightest sources in the night sky, was far too distant to have affected life on Earth.

This reassessment of the Cygnus Veil comes from revised data regarding its distance, now thought to be around 1,400 light years away, instead of the presupposed 150 light years banded around in the early 1990s.

Moreover, no other similar event is known to have occurred around 35,000-40,000 years ago, even though close supernovae cannot be ruled out as the cause of mass extinctions on Earth, either in the past or in the future.

Having now spoken at length with Denis Montgomery on his proposed 'Cygnus event', and explained to him the latest data regarding the Cygnus Veil, he has now revised his two electronic books (www.sondela.co.uk/Aqua/Books/AquaApeA4.pdf, and faculty.mdc.edu/jmcnair/EveA4.pdf) to include other possible sources of cosmic rays that might have irradiated the Earth in Palaeolithic times, including Cygnus X-3.

The Meinels, although now acknowledging Cygnus X-3 as a proposed source of cosmic rays reaching the earth, have dismissed my claims in favour of the Cat's Eye nebula.

However, these criticisms are fully addressed in a paper I have written entitled 'Cygnus X-3 and The Cosmic Ray Question'.

Despite some questions arising from his overall theory, Denis Montgomery must be credited for having pioneered the idea of cosmic rays influencing human evolution, and for concluding that its point source was in the Cygnus region, a road which he admits has been a long and often solitary one.


Okay. But what about real life? Surely that theory Andrew Collins is proposing is a bit far-fetched (even though Nasa seems to subscribe to it 100%).

After all, it would seem that many members of the Collins are maybe a bit too obsessed with the Swan symbology. Sure, Andrew Collins risked his credibility to expose his theory that evolution and religion came from the Swan constellation and symbolism. But Lily Collins decided to actually wear the symbol in her Snow White movie:


We got a quick glimpse of the wild costume-ball getup Lily Collins dons in her upcoming still-untitled Snow White movie last week. Now, the studio released a few more images from Tarsem Singh’s fantastical fairy-tale adaptation, and among them is a head shot (heads shot?) of Lily in the giant swan headdress. And it’s further proof of what fashion bloggers have been saying for some time now: swans are the new black.
Björk’s new album, Biophilia, drops tomorrow, and though she sold her infamous swan dress for charity years ago, we wish she would trot out the look once more on her publicity tour, just to say “Toldya so!” to the haters who mocked it back in 2001. And then Natalie Portman would bum-rush her interview and cut her. Sorry, don’t know how that story just spun out of control there. Anyway, vote for the best swan


Lily Collins / Swan Picture

WTF?!

Anyway, that's how weird Collins's fascination for the symbol is. In fact, this symbol goes back up to the crusades era. And it is really a Dark Nobility (Dark Nobility is the name of the families who runs Europe and Russia for miliennaes - for instance, Queen Elizabeth II's husband is a Romanov house member) matter. Godefroy de Bouillon, famous for the fact that he gained back Jerusalem around 1100A.D., allowing Knights Templar (and freemasonry) to install there, was another point of focus for the Dark Swans. Those contreversed families have a legend, the Swan Knights. Quoting from Wikipedia:


The story of the Knight of the Swan, or Swan Knight, is a medieval tale about a mysterious rescuer who comes in a swan-drawn boat to defend a damsel, his only condition being that he must never be asked his name. The earliest variants of the story appear in French chansons de geste attached to the family of Godfrey of Bouillon, the first ruler of the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem. Later, the German poet Wolfram von Eschenbach included a version in his Grail epic Parzival. One of the Old French romances inspired a late-fourteenth century version in Middle English.[1] Wolfram von Eschenbach's version inspired two later romances and the opera Lohengrin by Richard Wagner. A German text, written by Konrad von Würzburg in 1257, features a Swan Knight but without any other name.


Wait, it gets better.


The Knight of the Swan story first appears in French chansons de geste of the Crusade cycle, where they figure into tales of the ancestry of Godfrey of Bouillon.[2] As the first ruler of the newly-established Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem, Godfrey loomed large in the medieval Christian imagination, and his shadowy genealogy became a popular subject for writers of the period. Knight of the Swan stories attached to Godfrey fall into two major versions, identified by Gaston Paris as "I" and "II". Each version has its own variants.[3]
[edit]Swan Children


Helias, Brabant (16th-century)
Version I describes the Swan Children and appears to have been originally separate from the Godfrey cycle and the Swan Knight story generally.[3] Paris identifies four groups of variants, which he classifies usually by the name of the mother of the Swan Children.[4]
In the Dolopathos group, named after the oldest variant, a lord finds a mysterious woman — clearly a swan maiden or fairy — in an enchanted forest and marries her.[4] She bears seven children, six boys and a girl, with golden chains about their necks, but her evil mother-in-law has them quickly removed and abandoned and replaces them with dogs.[5] The father blames the mother for their disappearance and punishes her; in turn, the boys lose their gold chains and turn into swans. Through the efforts of the sister, after seven years the truth is revealed, the mother is redeemed, and the boys are restored to their human form, with the exception of one whose chain has been melted down. The poet asserts that he becomes the swan in the Swan Knight tale.[5] The Eloixe group tells a courtlier version of the same story, in which the mother is less mysterious in origin and dies in childbirth, so she does not suffer before her children are restored.[6] In the Isomberte variants, the woman is a princess fleeing a hated marriage.[7] In the Beatrix variants, the woman had taunted another woman over her alleged adultery, citing a multiple birth as proof of it, and was then punished with a multiple birth of her own.[7] In the Beatrix versions, the mother is also an avenging justice.[8] This makes the tale resemble not only such chivalric romances as The Man of Law's Tale and Emaré, but such fairy tales as The Girl Without Hands.[9] It also bears resemblance to the fairy tale The Six Swans, where brothers transformed into birds are rescued by the efforts of their sister.[10]
[edit]Swan Knight
Version II involves the Swan Knight himself. These stories are sometimes attached to the story of the Swan Children, but sometimes appear independently, in which case no explanation of the swan is given. All of these describe a knight who appears with a swan and rescues a lady; he then disappears after a taboo is broken, but not before becoming the ancestor of an illustrious family.[11] Sometimes this is merely a brief account to introduce a descendant.[12] The second version of this tale is thought to have been written by the Norman trouvère Jean Renart.
In Brabant the name of the Knight of the Swan is Helias. It has been suggested[by whom?] that this connects him to the Greek solar god, Helios,[13] but the name is in fact a common variant of the name of the prophet Elijah.


So the Vatican, de Bouillon, the Collins, the Nasa Elite... they all have the same contreversed, swan-driven, mysterious past.

The Swans of the Shadow.

Today, these families are still around. The Dark Swans stay hidden, forming the Elite, while they map out the stars and attempt to build the Enterprise in Las Vegas. Are the Collins related to these families? Possibly - it would explain why their fascination. Andrew Collins worked out where the God Star could be, and, now, well... apparently, the Dark Swans are really eager to "return" there.



Or maybe they'll say that some E.T. from there wants us to worship them and that World's religions has to be replaced by these's E.T.'s quantum-mother-Nature-Gaia-consciousness-of-Ashtar religion. I don't know, They can act quite erratically when they want to.

I just thought I'd share that with y'all.

Swan
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 12:58 PM
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...so your family traces their ancestry to the Cygnus region?


It WAS one of the first places of black hole discovery.

But ...um...so what is your point....your family is of alien origin??????????
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posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:01 PM
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wow, that wall of text is insane.
I'm not one to call people out on it, but seriously. That's the worst one I've ever seen.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
It WAS one of the first places of black hole discovery.

But ...um...so what is your point....your family is of alien origin??????????

Nope, that some Illuminati families think THEY are.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ghost375
wow, that wall of text is insane.
I'm not one to call people out on it, but seriously. That's the worst one I've ever seen.

Then rejoice! if you already seen the worst.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:04 PM
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Proof?

Simple question for what is a weird OP.



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by swan001

Originally posted by Ghost375
wow, that wall of text is insane.
I'm not one to call people out on it, but seriously. That's the worst one I've ever seen.

Then rejoice! if you already seen the worst.


Is this just going to be a troll thread by the OP their self?



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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Proof?

Simple question for what is a weird OP.

Proof? Well, ask the Illuminati, they seem to have alot they don't tell us!



posted on Mar, 2 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by swan001

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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Proof?

Simple question for what is a weird OP.

Proof? Well, ask the Illuminati, they seem to have alot they don't tell us!


No. You are the one claiming family connections. You ask, and tell us. It's your thread after all...

Des



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:34 AM
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You misunderstood. The thread is basically about the symbology behind the Illuminati's family. If you guys want proof, you'll have to ask them - they're the one who believe in this. I am just exposing the fact that they do. The first paragraph in my OP was simply to explain what put me on track.

I added all relevant links.

I showed how Nasa has the same mentality than crusader Godefroy de Bouillon. It's all linked in the symbology level!

Good to hear from you BTW.
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posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:45 AM
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Here, I found another link.

www.ufodigest.com...



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by Destinyone
 


You misunderstood. The thread is basically about the symbology behind the Illuminati's family. If you guys want proof, you'll have to ask them - they're the one who believe in this. I am just exposing the fact that they do. The first paragraph in my OP was simply to explain what put me on track.

I added all relevant links.

I showed how Nasa has the same mentality than crusader Godefroy de Bouillon. It's all linked in the symbology level!

Good to hear from you BTW.
edit on 3-3-2013 by swan001 because: (no reason given)


Um.......

Are you sober yet?



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
Are you sober yet?

You gotta find yourself a hobby, mate.





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