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Vatican Prophecy, the End of Religion, and Shift to Universal Consciousness

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posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 02:45 PM
reply to post by lovemyworld

DW: Synchronicity is another one that you can pay attention to. People are starting to notice more and more, like they’ll see 3:33 on the clock or 11:11 and it will happen right when they were thinking about something important.

GN: Absolutely.

DW: People ask me all the time: “Well, what does this mean?” The answer is always the same.

Basically what you want to do when you see one of those is ask yourself, “What was I thinking right before this happened?” and that will be the answer. It’s going to flag whatever you were thinking and tell you that that was an important thought that you’re on the right track with.

This comes from an interview for Coast 2 Coast AM with David Wilcock found on his page GN is Grant Noory and DW is David Wilcock

posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 04:17 PM
Thanks for this thread OP...

Obviously you put a LOT of effort into this and it deserves S&F's.

I too have spent much time researching this subject and below is some of the best information I have learned over the past year.

The single most important thing I have learned is this:

The entire ET scenario DEPENDS on an illusion and this is why the truth is being covered up, they MUST hide their real agenda.

"We got a coverup among the researchers themselves that people are relying on for the truth" ~ Joe Jordan

The countless abductees worldwide who are being kidnapped, probed, molested, and surgically implanted around the world make it VERY clear that these things are blatant liars with a stealth agenda.

This has been well documented by many researchers.. we ARE being LIED to...

All of the research from people like Joe Jordan, L.A. Marzulli and others makes this absolutely undeniable.

Many of you are GOING to come to the place just like I have and KNOW that this is a FACT.

These beings are extremely skilled at PRETENDING to be aliens.

They are inveterate liars and deceivers, and delight in bamboozling and misleading mankind with all manner of nonsense. They are addicted to the abduction or kidnapping of humans. (The Scotsman Robert Kirk, who wrote "The Secret Commonwealth" in 1691, evidently "knew more than was good for his health", and was killed by them.)

The True Nature Of The 'UFO Entities' By Gordon Creighton

"We got a coverup among the researchers themselves that people are relying on for the truth" ~ Joe Jordan

"Joe is obviously not popular with many UFO believers for ‘blowing the whistle’ and revealing the deception behind it all..."

Lifting the veil on the UFO phenomenon

The UFOs do not seem to exist as tangible, manufactured objects. They do not conform to the natural laws of our environment. They seem to be nothing more than transmogrifications tailoring themselves to our abilities to understand. The thousands of contacts with the entities indicate that they are liars and put-on artists. (John Keel - Operation Trojan Horse p. 266)

Forbidden Secret -

Another aspect of the so called alien abduction phenomena is the implants that people claim to have left in their bodies after they have been abducted. This may be the smoking gun. We have physical evidence that the phenomena are not an illusion or delusion. This is hard-core evidence that can be studied in a lab and put through a regimen of scientific tests.

LINK ~ L.A. Marzulli's Blog

The vast majority of alien encounters involve some type of spiritual phenomenon.

posted on Mar, 9 2013 @ 11:43 PM
reply to post by WhoKnows100

It is quite interesting that you signed off by using a reference to 'Truth of God', when this is the literal translation of what we are supposed to learn from the time of 'God, in order to transcend to the truth.

You raise some very valid points in what you presented, but most of these relate to 'misunderstandings' of how the mind works. Interestingly though, in your presented misunderstanding, you provide the exact cause of how you come to such misunderstandings.

Firstly, it's important to rationalise the working of our conscious states as being part of the apex layers of the "Law of duality" that exists with EVERYTHING in our universe. Balance, Ying-Yang. Everything in nature must (and does) have a polar opposite to give it balance. In our conscious states; this applies to conscious (physical/body), and superconscious (spiritual/mind).

So what does that make the 3rd subconscious state which does fit this model?

A fundamental to the existence to all dualities within this world, is that their mutually attractive and repulsive qualities must pass a central field which binds them in their motion/oscillation. They can only exist as extremities of this central 'X' point. A "zero point field", bridge or constant.

In the physical universe, this X point is gravity. Gravity is the constant, unwavering, X-point center by which all matter oscillates into its very existence. Contrary to the old belief. Gravity is a universal constant. It does not change, ever. What we mistake as changes in gravity is merely a change in the 'resistance' and 'assistance' of gravity; which occurs within the vibrational resonance.

Within the spiritual inverse, this central X point is the subconscious. It also represents a constant and unchanging state. Therefore there is no such thing as the 'programming' you referred to, as it would suggest a change in it's base level natures. Once again, it is only our 'resistance and assistance' to the subconscious that changes, not its fundamental nature. These zero-points represent the nature of our true attachments. The 'God' field, or TRULY divine nature of this universe I refer to as 'Light of life'.

Next you make a very common mistake regarding 'subliminal messaging' and 'mood enhancing' music sync, which is very commonly being used within TV dramas', being oblivious to lyrics within a song used to emphasize visual media does not relate to any level of 'subliminal messaging' and has been going on since films inception. As the music you referred to was given forth in the audio layer for the 'visual' in their duality; the two perform as a dualistic whole.

Watching TV represents one of the states with which our brain is least active. Less active even than when sleeping. The reason your husband was oblivious to the lyrics within the music they used to compliment the visuals, is because his brain; at its less active state; did not deem it necessary the primary visual media. It was not secreted as part of some subliminal insertion into your subconscious mind as you believe.

If the scene you refer to had featured the same song, the same man being murdered; but had instead portrayed the man 'singing the song' visually whilst he is being murdered, your husband would have instantly taken note of every word of the song as it gives itself forth as an important contextual part of the primary visual.

This is because our body gives priority of belief; to that which it can see, over that which it hears. To the point that; if an scene is believed to be completely accurate by way of sight (for instance taking in the spectacle of a large stage prior to the commencement of a concert) then most noise/chatter surrounding it is perceived by our brain as inconsequential chatter which it instinctively does not bother to try make sense of.

The reason it was so apparent to you (and only reason), is because you were devoid of sight. Next time you're in a large crowd of chattering noise, close your eyes and try it.

Next; you should understand that if you subscribe to an infinite nature belief of the subconscious and the information held within pertaining to every experience of a mind ever, it means that the lyrics of this song would be no more detrimental or defining to your understanding of the 'programming' of the subconscious, than if you were sitting on a bus oblivious to the conversation going on behind you about what someone ate for lunch.

What you are suggesting is no more than an irrational fear that; as conscious beings; we live in constant danger of influences beyond our control that could shape our character.


posted on Mar, 10 2013 @ 01:44 AM
reply to post by WhoKnows100

OK, lets address a few other things:

The power of spoken imagery like tv and film on the subconcious is mind boggling. There are fantastic blogs on the web dedicated to uncovering these, and usually specialise in hidden sodomy imagery or DNA manipulation imagery.

You put DNA manipulation and hidden sodomy in the same sentence, I assume to correlate them as equal evils of the world. Which I take it would suggest that you are anti-gay and anti-science. Both of which demonstrate a solidly detached mindset.

It is these that affect our soul and emotions. It is these that come out as desires and lusts, but yet it is your conscience that must be in charge to put the breaks on what you know to be good or evil, right and wrong.

'Soul' is merely an eternal model of the subconscious fed to people who are frightened by their own mortality and the finality of death. The infinite aspects portrayed by this term are flawed and as such 'soul' doesn't exist. As part of its opposing balance of the universe, what it gives to you in Birth, it will take away in Death. We do not live on forever. This is one of the two major manipulative falsies posed by a good deal of religions (the other being eternal damnation) which serves to bind those who fear death to their belief system.

There are only two emotional frequencies; 'Love/Equilibrium' and 'Fear/Chaos'; all other perceivable states of emotion are products/harmonies of these frequencies. These frequencies define us at any stage in our life as a whole, and are not just momentary phases, as in our standard interpretation of 'emotions'. 'Conscience' is something that wasn't even brought into any of what I posed, but as you brought it up I will elaborate.

Conscience is the complex system of mental process related to taking responsibility for our actions, based on morals, ideals and sensibilities. A rigid religious faith makes conscience increasing complex at it introduces variables of sub-interpretation within a process of conscience, based on how it would be 'judged' by their divinity.

Conscience is basically over-analysis of your actions resulting from 'making sure you do what the Bible thinks is right', rather than just knowing; and doing; what is right within yourself.

Conscience becomes an almost irrelevant concept when you realise that there is only love and fear defining us within action. If you resonate with love, all positive, moral and good will result as the natural bi-product of this, within complex processes of thought. If you resonate with fear, negativity will manifest accordingly.

Brain injury patients show us this when that part is damaged. They lose that 'filter', that part of them which told them right from wrong. What lashes out in violence or sweetness just happens because it's in the deeper part of the brain.

Brain injuries can cause you to speak in a series of ticks, permanently smile, walk like a chicken, and just about anything else you can think of, so it can't be used in support of any argument other than rewiring a complex system of synapses due to trauma, may have adverse side effects to its normal function. Respectfully, this entire paragraph is nonsense jibberish.

Where did this filter theory come from? All humans possess concept of right and wrong at a metaphysical level, as it one of the dualities within the billions of dualities that define the universe. There is no filter, this is another complication of a very simple concept that I assume is born of a lack of understanding on your part. We know right and wrong, that simple. The consciously choose 'right/love' and it automatically becomes hard for us to do 'wrong/fear'. If we choose to do wrong/fear, then as such we will seldom do what it right/love.

I will never understand the need for those within faith to complicate such simple concepts to something which requires major interpretation and understanding. A fundamental tuning within light and dark, will resonate throughout everything accordingly without the need for any contemplation.

The truely righteous people of this world, are those who need no detailed book of instruction to remind them of the difference between right and wrong. Accordingly there are no truly righteous among religious faithful.

Switching off the conscience is abnormal otherwise we'd all be falling into self-hypnotic stupors. What happens when you do?

You are getting mixed up between 'conscience' and 'conscious'. They are two completely different things. I would suggest you study their definitions as it is paramount to understanding the information I offer.

Second to this; switching off the 'conscious' would simply mean we are unconscious. I did not say I do this. I 'ATTACH' it to the superconsciousness, which is hard to do when unconscious.

posted on Mar, 10 2013 @ 01:52 AM
reply to post by Murgatroid

Dimensional beings only adopted the Galactic persona as it was easier for the less evolved to understand. Such as Pleiadians, who are actually from another dimensional 'Earth body' related to our own. Not only did they adopt the extraterrestrial persona to avoid confusion, they even named themselves as such.

posted on Mar, 10 2013 @ 05:41 AM
reply to post by BornOfSin


Pope Paul VI said in 1972 "the "smoke of Satan" has entered the Vatican." The evil one's plan has always been
to destroy the faith.

I wish you would take the time to listen to this scientist speak about a miracle of the Eucharist. There are
actually several miracles involved in this recent one in Argentina. He takes you back to another Eucharistic miracle in Europe that happened centuries ago because it is part of this miracle.

You see him speaking but you read the subtitle. The video is marvelous, close to a million views.

may the Two Hearts J+M keep you safe,


posted on Mar, 10 2013 @ 05:45 AM

This is the DEFCON Warning System. Alert status for 8:15 P.M. Thursday, March 7th, 2013. Condition Blue. DEFCON 4. Condition Blue. DEFCON 4. Condition Blue. DEFCON 4. There are currently no imminent nuclear threats against the United States at this time, however there are events occurring in the world theatre which require closer monitoring. North Korea has announced that it will end the cease fire armistice with South Korea on Monday, March 11th, and has threatened to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the United States in retaliation for new U.N. sanctions that have been imposed upon it. While North Korea does not yet possess the capability of a nuclear ballistic missile launch, they are working toward that goal. Additionally, the United States remains extremely vulnerable to a coastal attack from ships as well as from smuggled nuclear weapons due to its porous border. Currently, both the United States (along with South Korea) and North Korea are engaged in war games. While North Korea routinely engages in bluster, the proximity of the two war exercises coupled with very high tensions increase the risk of conflict to a level where the DEFCON Warning System believes it is prudent to raise the alert level at this time. It should be noted that the DEFCON Warning System foresees no threat to the United States directly should conflict break out. Additionally of note, there have been some unusual moves by North Korea. The drills North Korea is conducting are on a state-wide level and there are unconfirmed reports that they have also imposed no-fly zones off its coasts, prepartory for short range missile activity. In the state capitol, has been observed that the country has begun camouflaging vehicles and making other preparations for attack. This could all be part of the drills North Korea is undertaking, but the seriousness of the situation requires a more prudent approach.


posted on Mar, 10 2013 @ 04:19 PM
reply to post by colbe

Yes, It's written into the Bible as I showed you. It has always been the plan for religious era faith to end. He was well aware of this. Except that it's not 'the evil one' who made this plan.

It was those who WROTE the Bible. Those who GAVE us religious faith in the first place.

We were given a toy as children, that we are now outgrowing. Except there are those who will refuse to give up their toy, but you can't blame them as they have been lied to that anything which goes against their 'faith'; regardless of it's positive nature or how it can benefit and unite all man; is 'Satan'. Or the personification of pure-evil and all that is un-God; the anti-christ.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MIRACLES! They are religious fairy tales. There really is a scientific reason behind anything. Including "Miracles".

Getting a 'scientist' to talk about Miracles, is like getting an electrician to talk about carpentry. Just because people obtain degrees in one of the limited fields of the science which would see them called 'A scientist', this does not make them of a scientific mind and in my eyes; therefore; not a scientist. A 'Christian scientist' is by far the most ridiculous contradiction that you are ever likely to imagine, but I have actually met someone in real life who claims to be this.

What are miracles? All matter is a result of a manifestation superposition and density of vibration as it is perceived within a collective consciousness. It therefore stands to reason that manifestations, which defy our conventional illusion of reality can be achieved (albeit by their own doing) in the collective harmonic resonance of a large group of faithful projecting their energies.

It is not 'God' causing these 'Miracles', it is the manifestation of will, of those in tune with the same frequency concentrated together in a place of 'magnetic significance' to their frequency. They inadvertently tap into the superconsciousness, not by tuning it in. But more by forcing it in through sheer volume.

posted on Mar, 10 2013 @ 10:15 PM
What a fantastic read this thread has been so far, not only from the Op, who is clearly knowledgeable on matters regarding Religion and Science, but also from the majority of posters here.
Right or wrong, true or false........ I wouldn't have a clue as to what to believe anymore....... my mind kinda feels like a Martini not to James Bond's liking...... shaken and stirred...... and on the rocks!

Regardless of who's coming (or not), blood sucking reptiles or scaled angels..... the transformation of Human consciousness without external intervention these past few years has been, to say the least, extraordinary.

Personally, I'm tired of waiting for some future (Biblical) event that may or may not help Humanity, I say "let come what may"....... I have no expectations, hence, no disappointments.

A big "thank you" to all for making this op an incredible read.

posted on Mar, 10 2013 @ 11:04 PM
Whoknows100, I found that the anti- religious faith ( "evil" alien mind programmed) OP was not respectful at all to say to you “ this entire paragraph is nonsense jibberish. “ So to do something disrespectfully and say it respectful is contradictory and misrepresents the truth.
He has contradicted himself, he does not answer easy questions (especially his false claim about how religious faith has prevented/prevents him from self realization).
Once he asked me about my subjective experience of telepathy, and then he said he did not want to legitamize (as though he could) others subjective experiences.

Don’t worry about his anti religious faith beliefs (or his aggressiveness).
He doesn't know:
* The Law of one.
*Consciousness is one.
* That his mind is impure .
* That he makes a lot of assumptions with no basis.
* That your post was not a perfect example of fear of damnation.

There are no truly righteous among religious faithful.
*Mother teresa, saints, masters and all the rest of the righteous religious faithful are not righteous because Born of sin says they aren’t.
Just because they know right from wrong, it does not follow that people with religious faith cannot be truly righteous.
That’s the type of thinking of an impure mind.

He also claimed:

“ I 'ATTACH' my conscious to the superconsciousness, which is hard to do when unconscious.”

Impossible actually, and there is only one consciousness.

posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 12:46 AM
The Catholic Church is the last vestige of the Roman Empire. It is the continuation of domination and rule by the Romans. From a historical perspective the Roman Empire was retreating back to Rome after the birth of a man called Jesus. Jesus was killed by the Romans as he said do not look to me look to the father. This causes a lot of problems for an invading force who are actively oppressing the population to maintain control of the people.

Things have not changed a bit, the Roman Empire has been attempting to control the Earth through the Catholic Church since 400AD. The sad thing about it is the religious beliefs that are based on going to your priest and church instead of going to God directly. If the Church said you can be with god all the time and you do not have to be here and give us your money, they would surely go out of business.

The church of all its various persuasions, is a way of taxing and controlling the people through Law and order and cultural engineering. Now is the time we can see through the illusion of needing a church to be able to be with God. This is the time where the Church can redistribute its wealth back to the communities it has plundered and apologise for misleading the masses on many levels, most of all spiritually.

The church would go out of business if people became aware that the whole thing is based on a system of propaganda largely. Their was no virgin Mary, this was a ploy by the Roman Emperor Constantine to believe that Jesus was super human and different from any other human and nothing anyone could aspire to. If everyone said don't look to me look to the father above we would all be in a much better civilisation than perverse inbred cathaholics dictating ethics and spirituality to the masses

posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 07:14 AM

Originally posted by joeyv23

1. What is your take on a shift of the planet in density and what that means for us?

Density is mass per volume. I've heard a lot about this "density shift of an entire planet" business, but with little or no explanations of how that is to be accomplished. I really need to get a handle on this, and that begins with defining how it is you expect this density of the Earth to shift - is the volume going to stay the same with a concurrent increase or decrease of mass? Is the mass going to stay the same with a concurrent increase or decrease in volume, or are you expecting both to change? I really need to know this, as I have a few acres of land, and I'd like to know if I'm going to wind up with more or less when the planet shrinks or swells.


posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 08:30 AM
reply to post by BornOfSin

BOS... do me a favor, and go back a page [Here], plz.


posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 11:27 AM

Got another one

In my other thread, on page 2. Dated 20th Feb 2013 I stated the following:

posted on 20-2-2013 @ 22:30 this post And thanks for the new welcomes. I had a dream about a thick black-bearded man dressed in all white with bits of black on it being confronted in the lobby/entry of a building by some type of all-black armed response group. They were shouting at each other and it looked like the guy in white was trying to explain something to them but they couldn't understand him.


The guy in white was trying to explain something to them (He was the spokesman) but they couldn't understand.


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I'm putting your name out there as loudly as I can asking you gain special attention as you project negativity, bitterness and appear to need guidance. Hope it comes through for you

posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 11:39 AM
reply to post by BornOfSin

You keep referring to the Secret Catholic Library, and you know they have these documents. Doesn't make that much sense

posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 11:54 AM
reply to post by BornOfSin

Where do the royal families, the secret societies, the government come into the equation? If you tell me they are satanic then I'm on board with you

posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 04:13 PM
reply to post by BornOfSin

Bonofsin because I disagreed with many of your ideas and pointed out the holes in your thinking process you said to me “I completely disregarded the rest of your post; as I will with all your opinions and posts from now on. Bye now.”

I am sorry you now say you feel like an "Al Qaeda" spokesman,( though I don’t know why) I have heard and understood everything you have said. Including the insults and rudeness to other members that do not believe religious faith prevents one from doing what is right or from self realization. Some here think its a NWO plan to end religious faith, for if you do not have the hearts and minds how can you have total control over a species. BOS you do not know my name to give it out for “special attention “.

Love light & peace

posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 05:05 PM
the end of religion. I imagine that is very confronting for many and quite a relief for the rest.
From what i gather of BOS he is attempting to impart a fuller understanding of forces greater than ourselves.
Previously our relationship with these forces has been one of worshiper and the worshiped.
As worshiper there is really very little responsibility and it is comforting. We grow older as a species though and stand now perhaps at a crossroads where in we could take back the responsibility we once gave away.

Cosmic Consciousness People consider the Golden Rule just an ideal for practice in close family and social relations, but not for business dealings. … Jesus said, “Love ye one another”, and “Do ye unto one another as ye would have them do unto you”, but few since that day have known what He meant, or have practiced it in their daily lives. The way to gradually attain cosmic consciousness is to intensify one’s conscious awareness by much aloneness and companionship with God while manifesting Him in every moment and in every task of life. Moment-by-moment companionship with God brings with it so great a realization of Oneness with Him that the transformation into that full realization of unity is apt to take place at any time. The deterrent to cosmic consciousness is the feeling that God is far away instead of being within, and that we can reach that far away God only through sources outside of ourselves. (“The Dawn of a New Nay in Human Relations”, Address by Walter Russell, May 19, 1951)
walter russell

Thoughts on the "new world order"...
I fear that i'm being manipulated too BUT if humans of earth are to make the shift to becoming a true space faring race then do we not need a united world government?
edit on 11-3-2013 by w3thepatient because: link

posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 05:09 PM
reply to post by nenothtu

I'll give it my best, and I will say that my understanding is far from complete, otherwise I wouldn't have to come here and ask about it lol.

I don't disagree with your definition of density. I see it however, as a definition that is limited to our current understanding of 3d space/time.

I could use the word Dimension, but I think that limits the message I'm trying to convey. I'm what most folks on this planet would call a loon, bonkers, crazy, outside the realm of reality. I see the coming shift as being both a shift in consciousness, as well as a "physical" shift in the vibratory patterns affecting our star system. I think we'll be able to see it everywhere, and that there won't be any way to deny that somethings happening i.e. The sun changing from class F yellow to a class G yellow/white main sequence star, and the subsequent expansion/enlargement of the planets. You mentioned having land and wondering what may happen to it, I think if you live next to one of the big fault lines on earth, you may very well find yourself with more land, IF the expansion of the Sun/planets happens the way I think it will. But it's all still a speculative at this point, so my eyes will stay on the skies.

Give THIS PAPER a read. It will explain it better than I can.

posted on Mar, 11 2013 @ 08:32 PM
reply to post by joeyv23

Give THIS PAPER a read. It will explain it better than I can.

Thanks for putting up that link. fascinating so far. its on the "to be read" pile.
i wondered if you have come across Wes Penre's work?

The Working Model is telling us that the Unum is a natural, living system in itself and contains what we call the known 4 Dimensional Universe (length, width, height, depth and time), but is so much more than that. When a neurosensor is out of his/her body, exploring, they can expand beyond the physical universe and experience what is there without interfering with what is going on. Beyond the physical realms are six other domains, which can be classified as the realms of "ultimate causation", consisting of vacuum and plenum[11], quantum and sub-quantum[12][13]. In the Working Model these 7 domains are all together called the 7 Superdomains, not to be confused with the 7 superuniverses in texts such as the Urantia Papers[14]. The dominating characteristics of the Superdomains is form giving, and thus the term idiomaterial Universe was born. And us being mind/body, we are idiomaterial ourselves; thought creates matter, and there is no way to tell matter and thought apart. Idiomaterial Life Physics not only has as its goal to describe the fundamentals of life through science, but is also a guide for any body/mind/spirits encoded to do so; to explore the purpose of the Multiverse, experience its endless potentials and come to the realization that we all are connected. This goes for all body/mind/spirit complexes, who are capable of accessing information containing such thought form. This thought form, we as biokind (biological entities) and biomind (biological entities, including mind/spirit) are accessed through something which in Life Physics is called the "T-Boundary", short for Thought-Boundary. This is a superdomain of its own, providing us with the purpose to accomplish the above. I should add that not all life forms in the Unum is physical in nature; there are those who don't have bodies, or can create them as they go along, by accessing different dimensions, and these entities are of course also a part of the above encoding.

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