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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by lacrimaererum
Time for the HOAX bin.



Venezuelan sources tell @NBCNews that Hugo Chavez is alive, despite Wednesday's CNN Chile report of his death



www.breakingnews.com...
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But, but, it's on ATS Live tonight! He has to be dead.




posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by TheComte
Some people in the USA hated it when Chavez and CITGO got together to provide free heating oil to poor Americans. I guess they expected them to freeze when the US government turned their back on them.

Chavez elected by landslides 4 times in a row, loved by the people. Resisted a USA led coup attempt. That's why people in the US don't like him.


Ok so free oil for the poor people in America and shortages of goods in Venezuela....how is that equitable? All Chavez was doing was undercutting American free enterprise to destroy it.
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:37 AM
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Yeah, shortages of iPods. Like that is really important. Consumer goods are manufactured junk.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:38 AM
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Yes it is, which means that the very motto of ATS opposes our constitutional principles. How dare we deny anyone their rights?


Seriously though folks, has anyone been able to definitively confirm or deny yet? This is intriguing.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by KyrieEleison
reply to post by bknapple32
 


Yes it is, which means that the very motto of ATS opposes our constitutional principles. How dare we deny anyone their rights?


Seriously though folks, has anyone been able to definitively confirm or deny yet? This is intriguing.


Nope. Not a thing. Still dead.

Can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Just had to point out the irony here. Lol. Sorry.
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by TheComte
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Yeah, shortages of iPods. Like that is really important. Consumer goods are manufactured junk.


Hmmm not everyone shares your Utopian belief in the man's accomplishments


Hugo Chávez’ presidency has been a disaster for the Venezuelan people. Chávez’ "Socialism of the 21st Century" changed Venezuela from one of the most prosperous and politically free countries in Latin America to one of the least competitive and most repressive countries worldwide. Venezuelans who go to the polls today will ponder many of the President’s policy failures, including a long list of Chávez’nblunders in the last year alone.



Under Chávez’ rule, oil-rich Venezuela has become one of the least economically competitive countries in the world. In 2012, the country ranked 126 of 144 in a study by the World Economic Forum. According to the report, Venezuela now has some of the lowest scores worldwide in functioning of public institutions, trust in the justice system and domestic competition. It has some of the highest scores in terms of regulation, trade tariffs, and rules that deter foreign investment. The country has an inflation rate of 26 percent, and has also suffered several food shortages this year.



Venezuelan infrastructure has been falling apart under Chávez. On August 15th, the Cupira bridge near Caracas collapsed despite repeated warnings from engineers that it was in disrepair. Last month, poor drainage infrastructure led to nationwide flooding, resulting in over 400 families losing their homes and 1,500 people ending up in shelters. Chávez also mismanages Venezuela’s oil wealth. Since the government effectively took control of the national oil company in 2004, it has become much less efficient and production is 25 percent lower than when Chávez took office. Accidents are common—an offshore oil rig sank into the sea in 2010


reason.com...

So Viva Chavez and his fake generosity.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:50 AM
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These last couple of pages people are debating the socioeconomics of Venezuela whether Chavez died or not. You can move the thread to the bin but you can never silence us. Viva la
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by lacrimaererum
Time for the HOAX bin.



Venezuelan sources tell @NBCNews that Hugo Chavez is alive, despite Wednesday's CNN Chile report of his death



www.breakingnews.com...
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"He's not dead, Jim?"

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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by Exitt
reply to post by Libertygal
 


These last couple of pages people are debating the socioeconomics of Venezuela whether Chavez died or not. You can move the thread to the bin but you can never silence us. Viva la
edit on 28-2-2013 by Exitt because: (no reason given)


That's not the point. :

ETA: MOST of the thread, not just the last few pages.. most of the thread.

Not trying to silence anyone, trying to say it's a hoax, and honestly, all the other posts are off topic. Whoever starts a thread about Venezuela and what would happen IF he did die, would rack up flags and stars, though!

But, the topic is, he died, which, he didn't... so...

Besides, it's interesting to see who buys into this without verifying sources, and skips the posts that have.

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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by TheComte
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Yeah, shortages of iPods. Like that is really important. Consumer goods are manufactured junk.


Looks like ol Hugo gave free oil to Americans just to give Bush a headache..and as I said, a slap in the face to Capitalism. What's new? We know that Socialists and Communists hate Capitalism.


hotair.com...



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Chávez also mismanages Venezuela’s oil wealth. Since the government effectively took control of the national oil company in 2004, it has become much less efficient and production is 25 percent lower than when Chávez took office. Accidents are common—an offshore oil rig sank into the sea in 2010


reason.com...

So Viva Chavez and his fake generosity.


First, you have to dismiss the notion of bigger, better, business, money making reality you live in. Of course the oil production is lower, of course it's less efficient, i mean really? He changed the export policies, he transformed the whole oil production of Venezuela into another model that works better for him and the Venezuelan people (and not so good for the USA) so then we get these articles about him mismanaging the national company. Yeaah, if it ain't working for Americans it's a bad thing!!

Just try to dismiss the notion of max.profit and look at it from a different perspective.
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:08 AM
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LOL LOL look at the name of that site: Hot Air. You know what that means? The article is not even true, not to mention the fact it is from 2009. I believe it is a parody site.

Believe whatever you want to believe, pal.



Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Hmmm not everyone shares your Utopian belief in the man's accomplishments


That's fine with me, pal. Not everyone shares your Utopian beliefs either.

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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by Exitt

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Chávez also mismanages Venezuela’s oil wealth. Since the government effectively took control of the national oil company in 2004, it has become much less efficient and production is 25 percent lower than when Chávez took office. Accidents are common—an offshore oil rig sank into the sea in 2010


reason.com...

So Viva Chavez and his fake generosity.


First, you have to dismiss the notion of bigger, better, business, money making reality you live in. Of course the oil production is lower, of course it's less efficient, i mean really? He changed the export policies, he transformed the whole oil production of Venezuela into another model that works better for him and the Venezuelan people (and not so good for the USA) so then we get these articles about him mismanaging the national company. Yeaah, if it ain't working for Americans it's a bad thing!!

Just try to dismiss the notion of max.profit and look at it from a different perspective.
edit on 28-2-2013 by Exitt because: (no reason given)


My post had nothing to do with Americans. It had to do with what a journalist wrote about how his policies affected Venezuela. I expected people here to defend him regardless of how his policies really affect his own country. It's just like that Donna Brazile woman who is a Democrat Obama supporter and wondered why her health insurance premiums went up after Obamacare was implemented. We could have told her... oh wait we did tell her but she wouldn't listen. She only heard the drumbeats of the Democrat Party line.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:17 AM
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Don't believe the hype.


www.theatlanticwire.com...

He's prbably very sick. But dead?
That guy is probably just trolling Venezuela.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I don't usually feel good when another person dies....

I'll make an exception just this once. I think I'll buy myself some take out on the way home as a little treat for the occasion.

(Yeah...I really disliked him and what he did to Venezuela THAT much) Lets hope his replacement isn't worse.





While I despise communism/socialism, the rise of Chavez and others like him is a completely natural reaction to Washington's conduct in Central and South America.

We overthrew government's, installed dictators, suppressed the populations (disappearances, murder, torture, rape) and brazenly stole their resources. We supported death squads and ..... according to actual participants, we ran our own death squads. Just when you think it could not get any worse, we are now attacking the food supplies of Central and South America with god-d**m GMO poison.

The passing of Chavez is a tragedy if for no other reason than he fought to keep Imperial Fedgov from pulling his strings. Hopefully, the rest of Central and South America will come to grips with their self-worth and will continue the movement toward complete independence.



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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:26 AM
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If it is true is sadden me alot, may rest in peace Mr. Chavez and so long .. You were a true hero.
God bless and rest in peace..



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:31 AM
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way to go.

ats , another site that cannot be trusted as a reliable source.



posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by lacrimaererum
reply to post by Libertygal
 


way to go.

ats , another site that cannot be trusted as a reliable source.


Right up there with the G the L the you know what and the other loony bins.

Yep.

Well. So. There's that.

(Kicks stone)

So. Yeah.

(Cough)

Well then.

So, bye n stuff.
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posted on Feb, 28 2013 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by TheComte
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


LOL LOL look at the name of that site: Hot Air. You know what that means? The article is not even true, not to mention the fact it is from 2009. I believe it is a parody site.

Believe whatever you want to believe, pal.



Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Hmmm not everyone shares your Utopian belief in the man's accomplishments


That's fine with me, pal. Not everyone shares your Utopian beliefs either.

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Yes, HotAir is a blog, but Washington Times is an online journal and they have said that other items such as toilet paper are in shortage. Hope you have lots of newspapers handy...



Once the emotion of the moment passes, Venezuelans will be left to pick up the pieces from Mr. Chavez’s gross mismanagement of the Venezuelan economy. To squander Venezuela’s vast oil wealth takes real effort, but Mr. Chavez and his profligate spending proved up to the task. In what has been an abject lesson in the perils of populist economics, his actual legacy will be soaring inflation, a bloated public sector, a crippled private one, electricity blackouts, shortages of basic goods and one of the highest homicide rates in the world.


here's a projection of good times ahead...


The first sign of more difficult days ahead came on Feb. 8, when the government ordered a 46 percent devaluation of the country’s currency. Inflation, already running at 22 percent, is now expected to surge, prices of goods will increase, and shortages of items such as toilet paper and cornmeal (the staple of arepa cakes) and even automobiles will grow worse.


www.washingtontimes.com...

Note it states that shortages will grow worse...meaning they are already present.

Oh yah, and I have a question for you...why does Chavez have to go to Cuba for treatments, you know that paragon of impeccable health clinics????
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