Originally posted by skorpius
reply to post by Druscilla
We keep getting recycled through , our memories are wiped, but each time we are recycled we remember more and more from our past attempts to escape the cycle. [/quote
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Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by wantsome
I wonder; how many people get asked if they "want to go" when it comes to parents living in abject poverty that are going to sell the kid into sexual slavery?
I wonder; how many people get asked if they "want to go" when their parents are going to be extremely abusive, and might even kill the child soon after it's born, or just leave it in a dumpster?
I wonder; how many people get asked if they want to go" when it comes to all the hardest, worst, most miserably horrible and torturous existences available?
edit on 27-2-2013 by Druscilla because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Druscilla
Originally posted by k1k1to
i have the answer.
not everyone has a soul. there exists 2 types of humans.
a "natural" human, and an "occupied" human. a natural human is just an "empty shell" sure he looks human and acts human but there is nothing deeper, its missing that "spark" of life..its so easy to tell them apart. however an occupied human is a higher form of intelligence that occupies the shell of a natural human, just because it is the most intelligent form of life that resides in this planet.
most of the murderers, psychopaths, and often people born into torture and horrible conditions are mostly empty shells or "natural" humans...however some higher forms purposely chose the pain and suffering or often assigned these fates as a form of punishment.
clearly the person who started this thread is an occupied human.
You may desire to reconsider this position.
By inventing a group of 'REAL" people, and classifying all the rest as empty shells, you open the door to socio-apathy.
Any sufficiently developmentally challenged moron holding any sufficiently powerful political position anywhere could use the whole basis of difference between Real People and Shell People as justifiable rationalization for killing millions of people for any or no reason at all.
That's the more extreme of examples. Less extreme applications would involve totally ignoring social welfare, or the wants and need of anyone "lesser".
The whole premise gives anyone and everyone free reign to rape, murder, steal from and take advantage of anyone and everyone because by default, anyone following such a belief will always be one of the "real" people, while having a harem of child sex slaves would be okay since they're not real people, and even if they are, they picked that life and probably deserve it anyway.
The whole concept in itself is developmentally rudimentary; philosophically and psychologically equivalent in cognitive complexity and mental maturity to something any child could make up on the spot off the top of their head.
By comparison, the oldest continually practiced religion on the planet, Hinduism, from a standpoint of being developed by actual primitive ancient man, is a hair or two more sophisticated and refined in it's use of the caste system.
You're still totally screwed if you have a crappy life such that due the caste system, it's your lot in life to take what you get and be happy with it. If you want to be a crybaby about your miserable lot in life, then you run the risk of having to repeat the whole thing over, several times over, or, even getting tossed down the ladder to a worse lot in life in your next life.
The concept thus justifies keeping people with crap lives in their place, because that's where they're 'suppose' to be.
Beyond that you get into other philosophical complexities like the always fun solipsism
A Solipsist believes that nothing exists outside their own observation, where the entirety of the universe extends out to and encompasses only what they know about, where anything new is something a hidden compartmentalized aspect of themselves already knew and chose to reveal at that time for whatever or no reason at all.
I adore solipsism for it's ever so entirely selfish perspective and self examination of the universe. It's pretty hilarious.
You then fall into the primitive concepts of magical invisible super people that created everything, each and every sort of myriad version all different and pretty much the same.
Progressing beyond invisible people in the sky there's the one-with-the-universe philosophy.
The list goes on, but, the whole Real People vs Shell People thing is one of the more developmentally immature and simplistic such that by adopting the belief, one might as well say they're one of the shell people incapable of anything any more sophisticated or mature as far as a belief system goes.
I don't mean any insult to anyone by this.
Just say'n. It opens doors to dangerous thought and behavior.
Originally posted by Dustytoad
Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by Druscilla
Hey Dru...I just wandered...concerning your comment...I was unable to recognize your stance on this? Are you rejecting this notion of remebering...or are you simply stating a philosophical question?
Personally I highly doubt I chose to be here.. I've spent my whole life trying to find the edge of the matrix only to find the game was all in my mind.. It's more like I was forced here.
I agree with her point.. Why would anyone choose those things? on the other hand logic is a strange thing to use from our angle judging something beyond our worldly realm. How could we know the motive of such an endeavor? Still, it would seem there wouldn't be so many people begging to starve.
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