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Originally posted by pgobbs2277
I live in Colorado.
This sucks, because I wanted to own a gun for the sake of the 2nd amendment.
people say "Why do you need a gun like that anyway?"
Read the freaking 2nd amendment, it is solely for the purpose of taking down people militia style.
C'mon. This really isn't a big deal. 15 rounds is more than enough
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Its kinda Funny how all the Gun Lovers are Mortified by the Bill Passing.
But a Company attempting to BLACKMAIL the Government of Colorado, thats Ok.
You guys are a Joke.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
In case people want to see the bill, you can find it here at the Colorado State Legislature (PDF)
-- There is a grandfather clause
(2) (a) A PERSON MAY POSSESS A LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE IF
HE OR SHE:
21 (I) OWNS THE LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE ON THE EFFECTIVE
22 DATE OF THIS SECTION; AND
23 (II) MAINTAINS CONTINUOUS POSSESSION OF THE LARGE-CAPACITY
-- There might be an equal-protection case in the making here since they allow some to possess and manufacture but deny others; exceptions are tricky and a citizen could easily use McDonald or Heller to highlight this argument.
-- Serialization of the magazines....that is interesting.
I am not sure how this follows...
SECTION 3. Safety clause. The general assembly hereby finds,
21 determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate
22 preservation of the public peace, health, and safety
How does this preserve the public peace, health, and safety? It is a feel good measure "hey look we did something".
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by Bearack
That is the reason for the serialization clause. Basically if you have a magazine without a serial, then you can argue that you were grandfathered in. The burden is on the state and most logical courts (if it ever got challenged) will seek that burden to be proved by the State that you bought such magazine after this law goes into effect.
It is a nonsense law and will be challenged and should be challenged solely on the equal protection clause. Laws are to be uniform in application and this one carves out exceptions that most judges don't like. We will see though.
Originally posted by Ghost375
Perfect example of why there's no talking to you people.
"You have proof that Obama is not directly responsible for eroding our rights?"
This has nothing to do with the conversation!!
Your entire response degraded into some tirade against Obama, and trying to call me an Obama supporter, ha! And we aren't even talking about him! I mentioned him in passing. He's obviously not the topic at hand.
The only thing worse than your guys' obsession with guns, is your obsession with Obama.
Realize how crazy you guys look and sound. It's beyond obsession at this point.
People can't even talk about limiting guns, that the founding fathers would never have dreamt were possible, without you all flipping out.
Originally posted by jaynkeel
Interesting that Magpul has made in Colorado crossed out on their product page and a question mark next to it. I know they said they'd move but it really must hit home for the folks employed there now, what their elected officials have done to them.
Magpul is proud to announce the “Boulder Airlift”, our program to make sure that responsible Colorado citizens have the opportunity to own standard capacity PMAGs prior to the potential implementation of pending legislation that would infringe on their Second Amendment Rights. The program will be open to all responsible CO residents, (with both billing and shipping addresses inside CO) and provide access to a limited quantity of PMAGs. Remember to contact members of the Senate and the Governor prior to ordering and urge them to oppose HB 1224. Full details at www.magpul.com... Similar to the Berlin Airlift, the Boulder Airlift will bring much needed supplies to freedom-loving residents trapped inside occupied territory. While we plan to initially use FedEx or UPS instead of aerial delivery, we figure that $5 flat rate shipping will make up for any loss of “style points.” The increases we have made and continue to make in production capacity will allow us to open this program with very minimal impact on the number of PMAGs we are shipping to our dealers and distributors out of the state. We are also aware that Colorado is not the only state with existing or pending magazine capacity restrictions; we are working on programs for other affected states as well.