To avoid looking like a dupe, it's usually a good idea to look at the source of an article before posting.

A press release from "The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State" is not a credible source for anything related to Church, State, or reality.

Yeah, like he was going to resign because of reasons...

Like any other church these days, it's all about the fact that the world is waking up...we no longer see them as an authority.

I hope every single power-drunk branch of Christianity goes down this year, and that the world finally after so many years of oppression treats them as the criminals they truly are.

The one thing that concerns me is if the catholic church goes down the gurgler, then there will be a lot of displaced crutch needers looking for a new system to follow. What if a lot of those people decide to migrate to islam?

Now we would have a massive group that, if they are gullible enough to believe in ..... well ..... anything, then they would be gullible enough to fall for the rules that go along with islam.

Now even if a small portion of those new believers go along with sharia, then there could be a massive problem. Get ready to pay your dues to them if you don't go along with them, or maybe just keep an eye on your neck in case some zealot comes gunning (oops knifing) for you.

Don't know much about credibility of this source...but the article mentions "Easter Reclamation Campaign".

Tried googling that, got no relevant hits.

Anybody knows what is this campaign supposed to be?

Never heard of the Itccs however could be possible if they are filing commercial liens. Time will tell... If true I doubt Italy will comply so all the pope has to do is stay out of the country that sanctioned the liens and arrest warrants etc..

On further study this is a citizen group trying to use common law so non of the criminals who are heads of state will enforce it or they'd all be subject to arrest. But the commercial liens could still have validity if they do it right.

There really is no such thing as "international" law in my opinion. I mean it depends on what other nations are willing to do or not do. If this is all true, they cannot simply waltz into Vatican territory and arrest the former pope. Regarding the liens on all church property, I highly doubt it. I just cannot see there being any legal basis for something that huge. I don't know if Italy could do anything, if they even wanted to, which I highly doubt, considering VC's status as a sovereign entity.

I really have no clue how the city was set up or who has what kind of jurisdiction, but I am guessing that the only way to seize all church assets would be to invade VC, lol. We will see I guess. It makes sense that something may have caused the resignation, but it also makes sense that someone would attempt a hoax in the midst of that resignation.

Originally posted by adjensen
To avoid looking like a dupe, it's usually a good idea to look at the source of an article before posting.

A press release from "The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State" is not a credible source for anything related to Church, State, or reality.

Not to mention the article overlooks the fact that the Vatican is a nation state and not just a religious organization. The Vatican has embassies around the globe like every other sovereign nation, and their Ambassadors are referred to as Papal Nuncios and they have diplomatic immunity like any other diplomat. Their Embassies are inviolable just like all other embassies.

The Vatican itself in Rome is a seperate entity from Italy and is also inviolable. They can issue an arrest warrant all they want, however the fact remains that it will never be served unless the European country is going to commit an act of war against Italy and then the Vatican in order to reach him.

In addition to being head of the Catholic Church, the Pope is also the head of the nation state of the Vatican.

With this being saidk like the poster I quoted above, I think the source is dubious and without merit. This might as well have come from the desk of Sorcha Faal....

The source makes a claim that instantly, in my opinion, calls into question their whole article. Namely, the claim the resignation is "historically unprecedented". It is, actually. It might have been 600 years or so, but Popes have resigned before.

Also, if he remained Pope he wouldn't be "pending arrest". Arrest by whom? If he travels outside the Vatican, as a Head of State he would have diplomatic immunity - even if he didn't, arresting the Pope is a good way of pissing off A LOT of people....

It would be awsome if all of this leads to the vatican having to allow people to see what all of their documents are down in their catacombs and vaults. Just imagine all of those secrets

I knew the looney brigade would make something out of this. Took longer than I thought, were most of you asleep?