What the hell happened to music???

Listening to pleasurable music releases dopamine. This is one of the reasons we enjoy listening to music so much.
LA Times - Music is a drug

The problem is as we get older our brains become less dopamine-dependent, making us less impulsive and controlled by emotion.
This is often why many parents hate their kids music, the chemical reaction exciting the kids is no longer happening in the parents.

Sounds like the OP feeling the effects already.

I'm 28 and think 2013 is going to be a brilliant year for new music.
So far we've already had (albums that I've enjoyed):
Everything Everything - Arc
Foals - Holy Fire
Tegan & Sara - Heartthrob
Ra Ra Riot - Beta Love

and coming up we have (or possibly have) albums from the following acts
The Avalanches
Daft Punk
David Bowie
Beck
The Knife
Phoenix
Major Lazer
Queens Of The Stone Age (apparently featuring Elton John)
Sleigh Bells
The Strokes
Vampire Weekend
The Weekend
Tool

and I'm sure there will be more I haven't even heard of.

reply to post by LizardSlicks


Well, well, aren't you the king of the f***ing world. I would have to say that your ego is much bigger than Malmsteen's.

reply to post by spruceyb


No 2013 Tool album, they announced. =/

Growing up in the age of Led Zeppelin and Neil Young,moving on to U2 and Van Halen,then into the grunge era,I have finally retired in the adult album alternative club.

Adult album alternative (also triple-A, AAA, or adult alternative) is a radio format. A spinoff from the album-oriented rock format, its roots trace to the 1960s and 1970s from the earlier freeform and progressive formats.

The format has a broader, more diverse playlist than most other formats and tends to appeal more to adults than to teenagers. Musical selection tends to be on the fringe of mainstream pop and rock as well as many other music genres such as indie rock, alternative rock, alternative country, jazz, folk, world music and blues. The musical selections tend to shy away from hard rock and rap music. Some Triple-A stations bill themselves under slogans such as "World Class Rock" or "Quality Rock". Music selection also includes tracks from albums that are not singles, which leads to the enhanced and larger playlist. Within AAA, there are also variations; a classic AAA station (such as WLKK-HD2 or WXMT) focuses on songs from the 1970s and 1980s (the same eras as classic hits, classic rock and adult hits), while a modern AAA focuses on more recent songs. AAA artists take influence from late 1990s jangle pop (Gin Blossoms, Hootie & the Blowfish, Barenaked Ladies, Goo Goo Dolls), acoustic folk rock (Indigo Girls, Tori Amos, Jeff Buckley, Sarah McLachlan, Fiona Apple, Jewel), rock and roll (The Wallflowers, Sheryl Crow, Dave Matthews Band), and the moody electronics of trip hop (Portishead).[1] The music played has gained significant exposure for artists who were ambitious, intellectual, or idiosyncratic, yet still accessible enough to meet the requirements of mainstream radio programmers who wanted more sophisticated music that wasn't loud or overly disturbing.

[1] Triple-A songs sometimes do manage to chart on the Adult Top 40, modern rock, or an adult contemporary chart, since they may first break out on AAA. Additionally, Radio and Records, a news magazine devoted to radio and the music industry, charts stations in various formats including Triple-A. Its sister publication Billboard also began a Triple-A chart using Radio and Records' information on July 10, 2008. Rival Mediabase 24/7 also does a Triple A chart. As of mid-2009, Radio and Records publications were discontinued along with the accompanying charts. As of 2010, Billboard publishes Triple A charts in the magazine and for its premium members on its website. Mediabase also publishes Triple A charts. Additional charts - including Triple A's only non-commercial airplay chart - are published by FMQB, which also produces the annual Triple A Conference in Boulder, Colorado, an event that grew out of the Gavin Report's Triple A Summit which was first held in 1993. FMQB took over production of the event, rebranding it as the Triple A Conference, after the closing of Radio & Records in 2009.

en.wikipedia.org...

And the station I listen to,commercial free.

WFPK is also host to the weekly series “Live Lunch,” which features local and national acts performing live in front of a studio audience in the station’s performance studio. Guests of Live Lunch have included Tommy Emmanuel, Will Oldham, Alejandro Escovedo, The Subdudes, Jonatha Brooke, The Decemberists, Over the Rhine, the Derek Trucks Band, Amos Lee, Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros, and local Louisville bands Dangerbird, My Morning Jacket, The Muckrakers, and digby. In 2007, the station released “Best of WFPK Live Vol. 1,” a limited-edition CD that contained cuts from the series; the disc was given away as an exclusive premium for new members during the spring 2007 membership drive. Since then, they have released five more member-exclusive CD’s containing more live songs recorded during Live Lunch.

www.wfpk.org...

reply to post by votan


Awesome choice of classical pieces Votan

reply to post by Mr Headshot


Oh well, strike that one from the list then.

It's been a while since I checked what was coming out, just not enough hours in the day when you've got a toddler running around.

reply to post by spruceyb


Well understood. Music is kind of like, my life so....there's that.

reply to post by Mr Headshot


Same here

These "I'm old cry cry crybaby" threads are well...getting old.

Originally posted by Shadowcast
Auto tune and the hip- hop industry happened. Why pay 5 people with artistic talent when you can parade a half naked woman lip synching to a studio production?

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That's supposed to destroy a whole genre?

Nope.

There are a ton of alternative rappers extremely popular due to the internet.

If people can't find "quality" music, they aren't looking for it.

reply to post by Thecakeisalie



There is nothing wrong with music today..

Get in my truck and you'll hear old Aerosmith or something similar playing.

The music coming out of my speakers is just fine.

I understand that Dubstep isn't to everyone's taste....

But I have to say... I know a couple of people who compose and produce dubstep...and far from being a lazy genre of music to compose, those that are good have to be very dedicated and VERY hard working. They are very very passionate about expressing themselves through their music and live and breathe dubstep.

Regardless what people think of dubstep, the music they compose is usually a long labour of love with very limited chance of giving them recognition or making them money......real dubstep is a VERY gritty British sound and is about as un-commercialised as it get's!

I don't necessarily like Dubstep, but I don't exactly hate it either. I run around with a lot of Burners, so I kind of have to tolerate it. There are some good bands still, The Flaming Lips comes to mind. Either way, you could always buy a cheap car stereo with an Auxilliary jack or USB port, then you can listen to whatever the hell you want, Dual makes one for about $35.

Tool is still releasing music.

Therefore new music is still good

This thread made me smile. Thanks for the poster who put up the BBC orchestra thing, it sounded awesome!

As for the OP. It's ok, your allowed to not like whatever you want. I also don't much care for skrillex. Yet.


I don't know why, but I love to hate on music that is whisked out by the mainstream. But, stupid me might hear a band I hated 3 years ago, take a new listen and then find my traitorous head bopping about. Maybe they are ok I admit.... A month later I might even admit they are awesome. Never mind you when my kids might hear...

Some bands though get a free pass to my happy place, Radiohead, tool etc (it's not important what I like). What IS important though is that you know skrillex is not anything new. Dubstep started out a decade or so ago! (might not have been called that at the time, but bedroom producers in England in the late nineties were pumping it out). All skrillex has done is made himself look daft as though he had an accident with a whipper-snipper, fashionable drama I guess. Anyhoo, hats off to him and the millions he'll scrape in. Maybe in 3 years I will come to like his stuff, he may even be god.
But right now, get back in yer box ya freaky haired 3am dustbin lid in the street noisemaker!!!!



EDIT! I forgot why I was really posting! Check out this guy Tyler! He recently posted his music for ATS to listen too. Normally ATS user music is pretty naff (sorry, err this is awkward) but this guy actually has acoustic talent and great vocals. And, no electronic trickery, just a well placed mic and talent. Respect! You all better give him stars and flags! Even better buy his album! OMG, i've become a mainstream music pusher... how fast we turn! Seriously though, this is worth your time he has proper talent. TylerKnight ATS thread

Anyone else yawning while reading this?

Get over it. I don't really like dubstep but that doesn't mean it doesn't take talent. Or that music has died.

People who hate electronic music are just idiots who engage in fallacy

music is better than ever, there's more genres, artists and experimentation than there has ever been

People who say dubstep and electronic music isn't music, they're just morons who are so egotistical that they want to try and force their subjective opinion onto everyone else. I don't like that genre of music, therefore it must not actually be a legitimate genre of music, in fact f/// the definition, i don't like it therefore I'm deciding it's not music at all

what i find with most people like this is that they themselves have a bad taste in music. The sort of people who have these views, they're usually very one dimensional and stubborn minded, only really listening to one genre, or at worst a sub genre or two.

Open your mind and fix your years. I can't imagine mozart would think much of your electric guitars Anyway, whats a guitar if not plucking a few strings with your fingers? Now everyone who knows the guitar knows that's the most ridiculous simplification ever. About as stupid as saying that electronic music is just bashing a few buttons.

reply to post by Thecakeisalie


not sure what era of music you came up in but.. personally i was born in 81.. and i think the first thing i heard was my moms beatles records. but what was being played ont he radio as i was growing up was... synthesizers and hairband screamyness.

I mean i can appreciate orchestral music. Rock and roll and even Jazz, but as the medium grew in technology things... definitely changed...

Its going to continue. I mean im sure whatever..holographic, brainwave, hallucination inducing instrumentation comes next were going to to just sit and shake our heads.

The music you liked when you were growing up would have probably been hated by older generations. It's your opinion that it's bad, but that doesn't mean it is bad, good music is subjective, today's music is popular because people like it.

Skrillex is barely dubstep. It's like saying Taylor swift makes country music which is incorrect she makes pop/country. If you want GOOD dubstep listen to Mt Eden!

reply to post by Thecakeisalie

Is this a new thing? I thought it was bad enough for modern 'musicians' to sample ( plagiarize) older classics, while singing what can loosely be described as lyrics.

You're jaded and in my opinion most of the people posting in this thread know little about music. Music has ALWAYS been this way. Even back to the days when composers were hired by the church and aristocracy. People have been whining since day one. This is nothing new.

Things change, people change. If you don't like it well that's just fine, but this crapping you are doing on the expression of others is just wrong. Someone else out there gets it obviously since he has managed to sell millions of records. Frankly, I'm not into it, but I guess I'm not bitter enough to think everyone has to share my taste in music. I mean hell, people think Christina Aguleria is the best thing since sliced bread and the girl can't even hit a high note in key to save her life these days (and yea, I can sing so I'm going to judge). I don't get mad, i just turn it off.

I don't expect everyone to love my old jazz records or the opera i listen to. I don't even expect them to understand it. I'm just happy others have found something that expresses part of themselves.