Originally posted by Spookycolt
reply to post by Taissa
Is there a universal rule somewhere that if you are the first somewhere it belongs to you?
We planted our flag on the moon quite awhile ago so does that mean the moon belongs to Americans?
That's just the thing. Native Americans didn't believe that they owned the land. They believed that we are merely conservators of it until we die
and our children live upon it. It was the immigrants who believed they owned that land, sectioned it off and sold it. They were greedy. They took the
fat. That is what "wasicu" means anyway, it means "one who takes the fat".
But because we WERE here a hell of a lot longer, we had the belief that the land not only did not belong to US it didn't belong to the newcomers
either. That euro mentality of ownership was taught and pushed onto the natives as they sectioned off the less fruitful lands and pushed them on to
it, and ever since then, the govt keeps coming back to take more and more. Poison our lands with their uranium mining, and so on. Look at what
happened to the Navajo people and their land in the 70's and 80's.
Some people talk as if everything bad that happened to natives here only happened back in the 1800's - the turn of the century. Start doing some news
researching on what is taking place all over this country in various tribes, and you will find that we STILL have to fight for what little was given
to us and that treaties are broken repeatedly.
Over 500 nations of Native Americans on this land and some act as if that never meant anything.
Our people are not defeated. We still exist, we struggle, we move forward and keep on. Many of us go to college and graduate and work as doctors,
lawyers, teachers, business owners, etc. We're not just a bunch of drunken and drugged out poor people slopping around on our lands taking welfare. I
don't appreciate the stereotype we are constantly bombarded with that all natives are nothing but drunkards. But really, if we want to review the
history of alcohol and natives, who introduced it to them in the first place? I was told by my grandfather that the drink helped with conquering many
tribes, including the diseases that people brought over to this country. You can't fight when you are under foot of the drink and disease.
With that said, I do believe the Lakota was one of the best fighters in a battle field, and fought with a strategy that even Custer could not
understand. They were underestimated at Little Big Horn, which is exactly why they HAD to disarm us and once they did get the guns, bows, and knives
away, THEN they shot us, killed us or burned us out.
You tell me... is that an honorable way to conquer a people? Go on and sit there and tell me again how "if only we fought hard enough we would have
won every battle". That's hilarious, given that we were totally DISARMED and our women and children brutally murdered before every man's eyes.
I would love to take time to go point by point but I don't care to.
Every single thread on Natives on ATS turns into nothing but a racist brawl. Why does Skeptic Overlord allow THAT to go on? Why do the mods allow it
time and again?
There are a good deal of natives from different tribes that post here on ATS and all I ever see is racism against natives. Do you even know how
offensive you are being toward all of us? I bet you do and just don't care.
Either way, this is why I hardly bother with any thread on natives in any section of this web site, because last time I tried to join in on an
informative topic and lend my knowledge, it turned extremely racist and nasty while mods just sat by and did nothing.
Why is that?