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With a user name like yours, I'd assume you're possibly Hindu? Not really the kind of rhetoric I'd expect out of a follower of that path. . . But I did get a laugh from the term "moon god" -- so okay you got me.
The only 'nonsense' going on is that you are pushing the Muslim fabrications that happened 600+ years later, while totally dismissing the Christian historical documents from the time period.
Cuz Abraham was insane perhaps ....
You build a house on sand instead of a solid foundation and it gets washed away.
Maybe if you build a religion on hooooey or crazy people, the same can be said.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
First you doubt the prophethood of Moses,
and now you doubt Abraham?
Perhaps you need to stop identifying with the term "Christian".
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Christians have also dismissed Israelite / Jewish documents from an even earlier time period.
The church came along a thousand years later and modified the original definition of the Messiah.... turning him into God.
The story of Adam and Eve has BEEN PROVEN to be plagiarized from the Summerians. The story of Noahs Ark has BEEN PROVEN to be plagiarized from the Summerians as well.
No ... ISLAM came along 600+ years after Jesus ... modified the original documentation of His life ... and took away His divinity in order to start their own cult. Afterall ... with Jesus being God Incarnate, no one has a need for Islam.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
So when the Hebrews finally wrote their version, it would appear that they copied Sumerian mythology.
Either way, a lot of Old Testament verses are used to prove certain claims of the New Testament.
The Jews probably think Christians have hijacked their Torah and twisted it to suit their agenda.
The problem is Jesus is NOT God incarnate. That can be proven from the Bible itself.
Originally posted by MamaJ
Its clear by his actions he would not be hating on Muslims, yet his followers do.
The Babylonian captivity and the subsequent return to Judea were seen as one of the pivotal events in the biblical drama between Yahweh and his people of Israel. According to the Hebrew Bible, the captivity in Babylon is presented as a prophecy, as a punishment for their idolatry and disobedience to Yahweh—similar to the Bible's presentation of Israelite slavery in Egypt—and then be delivered once more. The Babylonian Captivity had a number of serious effects on Judaism and the Jewish culture. For example, the current Hebrew script was adopted during this period, replacing the traditional Israelite script. This period saw the last high-point of Biblical prophecy in the person of Ezekiel, followed by the emergence of the central role of the Torah in Jewish life; according to many historical-critical scholars, it was edited and redacted during this time, and saw the beginning of the canonization of the Bible, which provided a central text for Jews. This process coincided with the emergence of scribes and sages as Jewish leaders (see Ezra). Prior to exile, the people of Israel had been organized according to tribe; afterwards, they were organized by clans, only the tribe of Levi continuing in its 'special role'. After this time, there were always sizable numbers of Jews living outside Eretz Israel; thus, it also marks the beginning of the "Jewish diaspora", unless this is considered to have begun with the Assyrian Captivity of Israel. In Rabbinic literature, Babylon was one of a number of metaphors for the Jewish diaspora. Most frequently the term "Babylon" meant the diaspora prior to the destruction of the Second Temple. The post-destruction term for the Jewish Diaspora was "Rome", or "Edom".
Originally posted by MamaJ
Its your truth. Its hate and animosity toward another belief.
Originally posted by MamaJ
He never said he was God,
I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he. Isaiah 41:4
Jesus said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:17
I and my Father are one. John 10:30
Jesus saith...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:9
Then saith Jesus unto him... Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Matthew 4:10
And again, when [God] bringeth in the firstbegotten [Jesus] into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by MamaJ
He never said he was God,
Yes He did. God the Father. God the Son. God the Holy Spirit. All three are in scripture.
The VAST majority of Christians have the Incarnation as their belief.
scripture here
I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he. Isaiah 41:4
Jesus said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:17
I and my Father are one. John 10:30
Jesus saith...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:9
The angels of heaven worshipped Jesus. They knew He was God Incarnate.
Then saith Jesus unto him... Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Matthew 4:10
And again, when [God] bringeth in the firstbegotten [Jesus] into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6
Jesus claims the name of God - "I Am"
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58
These quotes still do not prove Jesus is God, the father of creation.
We are in God and He is in us. This means we are connected within the same source. This is why you are to love everyone as yourself. Its simple really. Just as when you speak ill willed toward the Muslim you are in fact speaking ill toward the father who art in heaven.
The first and last is meant to be the first and last man (adam). He symbolizes man and his story.
many people can call them self a follower of Jesus but many never come close to being like him and following his teachings which in essence is to love thy neighbor as thyself. We are all made in his image.... including Jesus. he represents us and is our representative as we all bare a cross.
Originally posted by MamaJ
There is no proof that Jesus lived, much less that he was divine.
"The falsification of history has done more to impede human development than any one thing known to mankind" - Rousseau
“the biggest cover-up in the history of mankind is the history of mankind itself”
"Throughout recorded history, the Illuminati has successfully withheld from humankind major aspects of history and science in order to subjugate the masses"
Secrets of Suppressed Science and History
"Here is a fact: There is far more evidence for the existence of Jesus than for virtually anyone in ancient history. Anyone who peddles that “Christ-myth” theory, does NOT do so on the ground of historical evidence. The fact of Jesus Christ in history is as axiomatic for an unbiased historian as is the fact of Julius Caesar. Get this straight. It is not historians who promote the “Christ-myth” notion. ...his alleged words and actions were documented by numerous people."
LINK
"If Jesus did not exist, it makes Christianity a much more incredible phenomena than if he did."
~ James Hannam