Reagan Warned Us About Obama

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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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This is really nothing more than some video editing, a similar montage video could probably be constructed to praise Obama as the saviour of the world or something ridiculous like that.

The video is flawed because Ragan was not talking about Obama it’s just someone who has taken everything he had to say and put it out of context. It does not contribute anything meaningful to modern day debates, it’s just a anti-Obama propaganda snippet, it is not a hard hitting political argument.

If people want to oust Obama and expose his failings then this is not the way to do it.

I also think the title of the OP is misleading, “Regan warned us about Obama”, it implies that Regan has some kind of psychic ability to predict Obama’s rise to the presidency when that is clearly not the case.




posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell. Confucius



He is one of the biggest flip floppers there is and here's the video that backs it up.
If he lived longer - he'd have changed his mind again.


Here he is bashing the Republicans and calling THEM for what they are.
After working as a spokesman for GE RR was eventually and certainly corrupted and sold his soul to the devil. RR went for what he thought would sell.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by hawkiye
Nails it to a tee! What's amazing is there is still clueless Obama supporters defending that neo marxist scum!

Despite his short comings Reagan may have been the last president who actually believed in America and the principles she was founded on.



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Reagan and Obama are pretty much photo copies of each other. Of course today tax raising, big spending, pro assault ban, FEMA creating, Illegal immigrant amnesty giving Reagan would be hated by the Republican Party. And please do not use the word marxist unless you know what it means.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 12:11 PM
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Please… Could you people just stop it. Move along and get on with your life. We have a black president and he isn't trying to rape your child or destroy your way of life. If you're not happy with the way things are going in America, then do something about it, but don't put it all on this president. This stuff didn't just pop up five years ago. The mechanics have been emotion for a lot longer than that.

If you really want to make a difference try to get a few simple laws on the books. One repeat term for Congress, none for the Senate. No more legal lobbying.

Try that for a start. All you doing with this rhetoric is wasting time and causing a diversion from the really important situations.

What happens when Hillary is elected? She is a woman you know! It'll probably happen if the GOP can't get their head out of their arsons and put forward a viable alternative.
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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by SKMDC1
Speaking of Reagan... Is it just me or is his "legacy" the biggest propaganda con-job we've seen in ages? The GOP has built him up to Mt. Rushmore stature as one of the great American leaders. My memory of when he was in office is quite different. Contrary to what the media says, here's what I remember about his administration:

He was ridiculed by nearly everybody as a buffoon and completely addle-brained. He had no idea what was going on in his administration and that led to multiple scandals when people under him ran wild and broke the law over and over again. He crippled our economy in an arms race with the Soviets. We lasted longer, barely. His wife was a ditz who listened to psychics more than advisors... That whole 8 years was a hot mess and yet now it's seen as some golden age of American society. The 80s sucked... why have we forgotten that?


Your memory is spot on with the way I remember things as well. Reagan was more or less the grandfather of fear mongering which laid the way for future administrations to learn from and utilize in their own ways. He was also a serial tax raiser who cut taxes for the rich while increasing taxes on the middle class, tripled the national debt, unemployment skyrocketed under his administration, he believed in and established BIG government, was responsible for a proxy war with the Soviet Union all the while funding Islamist fighters in Afghanistan which led to the creation of the Taliban (who today are labeled as Terrorists), and Iran-Contra was his puppy.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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And don't forget where interest rates were back then!!!



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:30 PM
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It's clever editing, but you could do the same thing probably by combining clips from south park against clips from Obama .. it's a tactic used quite often.

That being said.. while I loved Reagan's personality, charm and his the way he could give a rousing speech .. I'm not so sure how much of a great president he truly was.. his perceived legacy is far greater than his actual presidency ... I'm sure I'll get flamed for that.. yeah he's one of my favorite presidents .. but not for his presidency so much as for his like-ability
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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by SKMDC1
Speaking of Reagan... Is it just me or is his "legacy" the biggest propaganda con-job we've seen in ages? The GOP has built him up to Mt. Rushmore stature as one of the great American leaders. My memory of when he was in office is quite different. Contrary to what the media says, here's what I remember about his administration:

He was ridiculed by nearly everybody as a buffoon and completely addle-brained. He had no idea what was going on in his administration and that led to multiple scandals when people under him ran wild and broke the law over and over again. He crippled our economy in an arms race with the Soviets. We lasted longer, barely. His wife was a ditz who listened to psychics more than advisors... That whole 8 years was a hot mess and yet now it's seen as some golden age of American society. The 80s sucked... why have we forgotten that?


It's looking at reagan with rose colored glasses.. and exactly what many people feel will happen to Bush .. history vs. reality don't always line up .. but in this day in age it's sacrilege to speak out against reagan if you're a politician .. back then, it wasn't .. he wasn't adored by his colleagues nearly as much as he's, supposedly, adored by them now.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by MrSpad

Originally posted by hawkiye
Nails it to a tee! What's amazing is there is still clueless Obama supporters defending that neo marxist scum!

Despite his short comings Reagan may have been the last president who actually believed in America and the principles she was founded on.



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Reagan and Obama are pretty much photo copies of each other. Of course today tax raising, big spending, pro assault ban, FEMA creating, Illegal immigrant amnesty giving Reagan would be hated by the Republican Party. And please do not use the word marxist unless you know what it means.


And despite what ever Reagan did the video speech in the OP pegged Obama to a tee and that is what this thread is about!

As I said Reagan had some short comings but he loved America and had good intentions but was exploited into doing many of the things he did not realizing how it would morph in the future. Doesn't excuse his short comings but never the less he was better then most. Yeah he would be hated by the republicans today because of his libertarian ideals even though he did not live up to them in his presidency.

As for using the word marxist I know what it means far better then you and your neo marxist buddies on here who have tried to redefine the term to suit your delusions and shut everyone of you wannabe commies down every time we have debated it so if you think you got what it takes bring it slick! All I have to do is copy and paste my previous ass whoopings of you guys to shut you down again.


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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:24 PM
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They can only repeat what they hear on Fox. Did you ever really think these folks had an original thought. They dont even take the time to see if the B.S. they spew is even factual. Hell most of them will repeat something that they have no idea what it means smh. Obama is a Socialist, a Marxist, and blah blah blah. Just admit that you hate the guy because hes black and move on! Trying to say anything to the contrary is an insult to most peoples intelligence so just give it up already!



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:27 PM
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I find the recent surge in Reagan-worship to be disturbing. Do people not realize that he was the first term of the current regime? People like to talk about how Obama is the 3rd and 4th terms of W, but the truth is, we're in the 10th term of this admin.

Thanks Ronnie



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by ANOK
This Obama is a Marxist is just complete nonsense.

He is a Liberal, not a socialist.

He does not support worker ownership. Chrysler workers have been lobbying Obama since 2009 to allow a worker buyout of the company.

If he was a Marxist socialist then this is what he would be supporting...

Chrysler Workers Urge Obama to Support Ownership Push

And socialism is an economic system, not a form of government.

So why do you keep posting this stuff all day long? We get it, you hate Obama.


LOL you still pushing your delusions as the re-definition of marxism...
haven't had your ass handed to you enough times i guess... Sigh! Yeah we hate all neo marxists including obama!

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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:34 PM
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Reagan was far more of a Marxist than Obama ever will be, promoting corporatism, which is Marxism at heart, and completely the oposite of free enterprise. Everything corporations do is aimed at eliminating free enterprise, regulating the individual, and suppressing individual liberty. Reagan took us in the wrong direction, leading the charge against the working class, and everything our nation is supposed to stand for.

You are the one living the delusion.

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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Ikema
Please… Could you people just stop it. Move along and get on with your life. We have a black president and he isn't trying to rape your child or destroy your way of life.


I am not defending this video or anything of that nature - but why is it that if people do not approve of Obama or his policies that they are automatically branded as racists?
Is it because name calling is the only thing you are capable of when someone does not approve of the policies of your hero or something? I am a member of a mixed race family - so your little immature racism chant doesn't apply to me. Obama may be a swell guy to have a beer with, but he is a horrible "leader". Personally, I think Obama and Bush 2 are exactly the same and I hate what both of them have done to this country. If you love Obama so much, you must have adored Bush as well because their policies are exactly the same...well except that we have spent more money and attacked more countries under Obama, but whatever.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:37 PM
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Liberals know a lot of things that aren't so. For instance. Republicans wrote the Civil Rights bill in 1870. It was passed in 1875. It was ignored. Democrats voted vehemently against the newly revised Civil Rights Bill in 1965. Al Gore sr. filibustered the bill to keep it from being voted on until JFK was shot. LBJ was the most racist POTUS in American history. He used entitlements to enslave the black community to the Democrat party. Democrats have historically been the racist party. The only member of Congress to ever be a member of the KKK was a Democrat. Democrat presidents have presided over 95% of the wars America ever fought. Democrats were screaming about Iraq's WMD';s long before Bush ever took office. They are the ones who set it up to happen.

Prove me wrong.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by SkinsFan913
Just admit that you hate the guy because hes black and move on! Trying to say anything to the contrary is an insult to most peoples intelligence so just give it up already!


Trying to blame it on racism is idiotic. Why was it ok to snivel about Bush for 8 years (and people are still doing it) - but no one can say a thing about Obama or else it's racism. What about the many non-whites that complain about him? Are they racist too?

Try to present a real argument - not the idiotic and immature racism one.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by hawkiye
LOL you still pushing your delusions as the re-definition of marxism...
haven't had your ass handed to you enough times i guess... Sigh! Yeah we hate all neo marxists including obama!


I'm not re-defining anything. You have never read any Marx have you? I am not a Marxist, so I have absolutely no reason to redefine it.

Only in your imagination do I have my ass handed to me.

I provide plenty of evidence of my claims, where is yours? If you actually provided some kind of evidence that I'm wrong we can discuss it, otherwise all you're doing is attempting to unfairly discredit me.

I think really you just don't want what I say to be true, you can't prove it isn't so you make stupid comments like you're the expert on all this, and you don't need to prove your claims. If you don't like what I say, and you have no intelligent response then just give it a rest.

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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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I wish someone would have warned us about that war criminal Ronald Reagen. I understand a great deal of Americans view him as some sort of national treasure, but you know, the simple fact is you have been brainwashed.

He was a dangerous madman who posed a serious threat to our planet and it kinda saddens me anyone could look to him to deride any public figure, considering what an amoral psychopath he was.

Oh and Obama is not a Marxist lol.
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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by neformore
Clever video editing.

Can be done exactly the same the other way round.

Means nothing. Its just polarised propaganda to feed to bitter people because they believe the wrong person is in the Whitehouse.



Has nothing to do with people who believe the wrong person is in the white house. Look at the man's track record. Look at the man's daddy, Frank Marshall who was in the Communist Party of America. Clever editing or no, Reagan had some valid points way back then. Look at all the bank bailouts, automotive bailouts and the stimulus Obama has been dishing out, stealing from future generations who wil not possible ever be able to pay it back. What made this nation great was in that we were manufacturing just albout everything at one time, and exporting everywhere, now we manufacture very little and import almost everything, from Asia, specifically China. Now look at our inflation as our federal reserve prints money we don't have the gold to back up. nations that have money in the bank are not 15 trillion in debt. The gold we do have in reserve doesn't belong to us, it belongs to every one else holding the lien to our debts. Now tell me how spending money we do not even have, is going to get us out of debt? Thats the equivalent of using your credit cards to pay off your other credit card debts, shifting money you do not evne have from one place to the other, it's absurd and the american people need to fire this government for its gross mismanagement of the nation.
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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
Reagan was far more of a Marxist than Obama ever will be, promoting corporatism, which is Marxism at heart, and completely the oposite of free enterprise.


Corporatism is not Marxism, or socialism, or communism.

Corporations are capitalist entities. Corporations is how capitalists protect their personal assets form the courts if anything with their business goes wrong.

Whatever capitalists do is part of capitalism, and nothing else.

You fail in economic systems.

As far as Reagen being Marxist LMAO. He was in cahoots with Maggie Thatcher, who destroyed the working class in the north of England by closing all the industry.


He called her “the best man in England.” She once said he was “the second most important man in my life.”
Both were conviction politicians, united in certainty about their anti-communist, free-market views.


Reagan and Thatcher, political soul mates

Both were full on capitalists.

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