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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by piequal3because14
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No...the Universe would still exist but we would not know about it.
I am afraid would not.

"Cold science without a feeling is no truth."

Therefore we can't evolve only with science.


First of all...SCIENCE is simply a method for determining FACT....NOT TRUTH. If you want truth then take a Philosophy Class!

If you want to find out and know the FACTS OF REALITY....them you use the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. If there is not enough evidence to determine the FACTS then whatever has a HIGH PROBABILITY of being the Facts can be stated as a HYPOTHESIS.

Now the great thing about SCIENCE and the SCIENTIFIC METHOD...is that it does not state something to be a FACT unless it has been proved by Observation, Experimentation, Documentation and Practicle Application to be a FACT. If all these criteria cannot be met then whatever possible fact that has the Highest Probability can be listed as a Hypothesis.

Science will NEVER use a BELIEF or a suspected TRUTH to be labeled a FACT. This is the value of using the Scientific Method as one can always be caertain that if it is used properly we will always either know the Facts or at the very least a Hypothesis of what the facts are as such a Hypothesis is selected of what the highest probability of the reality is.

Split Infinity




posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 04:14 PM
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Unfortunately, many mere theories, or suspected truths, as you say existing within the scientific community are accepted as facts and there is no refuting them.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 05:33 PM
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The Scientific Community DOES agree that Quanta are VIRTUAL Particles that exist numerically at will in our Universal State and function as both Particle and Wave as well as the Scientific Community agrees that Quanta can have more than one Function.

This is what I am talking about and it is NOT my opinion.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 05:36 PM
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First of all...SCIENCE is simply a method for determining FACT....NOT TRUTH
Before ?...or after the hypothesis!



FACT
..... can be a cold Truth sometimes.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 05:52 PM
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I will not dispute that because such a thing is SUBJECTIVE for different people.

Still...A FACT is a FACT.

A TRUTH is what one takes away from learning a FACT.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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A Hypothesis is an ASSUMPTION based on the best evidence gathered that has the Highest Probability of it being a Reality thus a FACT.

Using the Scientific Method is specific for seperating such assumptions based upon reason and observation and experimentation from labeling it as a FACT.

A Hypothesis NEVER becomes a FACT but can become a THEORY which will remain a THEORY till evidence will prove it to become a FACT.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 06:09 PM
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Your post is complete nonsense as you have a wide variety of inaccuracies as well as outright mistakes.

You talk about matter or a person MOVING around in 3 Dimensional Space when it is IMPOSSIBLE to have MOVEMENT in only 3 Dimensional existence.

As we tend to list Time as the 4th Dimension....even 4-D Space is not enougfh Dimensional States as Matter cannot exist in only 4 Dimensional States.

In order for the Quantum Particle/Wave Forms...which make up ALL MATTER AND ENERGY....as in an Atom...the Protons and Neutrons are COMPLETELY made of Quanta such as Quarks, Glueons, Leptons, Mesons...etc...and the Atomic Nucleus of an Atom has another Quantum Particle/Wave Form orbitting numerically equal in number to the amount of Protons in the Atomic Nucleus and this Quanta is known as Electrons which create an Electron Orbital Field.

These Electrons are also both Particle and Wave and thus as such need at a MINIMUM 10 or 11 Dimensional States to even EXIST.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:44 AM
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Still...A FACT is a FACT.
You are right but facts can hide themselves sometimes.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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A Hypothesis is an ASSUMPTION based on the best evidence gathered that has the Highest Probability of it being a Reality thus a FACT.

Using the Scientific Method is specific for seperating such assumptions based upon reason and observation and experimentation from labeling it as a FACT.

A Hypothesis NEVER becomes a FACT but can become a THEORY which will remain a THEORY till evidence will prove it to become a FACT.

Split Infinity



ALL form , no matter how deep you look into it, is %99.9999999999------ Nothingness. The supposed "Reality" which we will ever be able to observe, will consist of %99.9999999------- Nothing. Scientists want to believe that this Nothing is Something, and they're trying to find it. But it will never be found, because it's all around you. It's the space, the nothingness.

So it's ludicrous to say that any scientific theory or observation can be FACT. When every thing we see, is form made from absolutely nothing at all.




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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 11:55 PM
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I did not say Scientific Theory or Observations are enough to determine a FACT. They are not.

The Scientific Method is used to determine a fact and this method uses Observation, Experimentation, Association and Practicle Application if possible to determine a FACT.

Just using Observation to determine a Theory will not really give us enough evidence to create a viable theory as several other aspects of the Scientific Method should be used.

Split Infinity





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