Sweet potato redux - more evidence in support of the Polynesian theory

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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:55 AM
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Hey Punkinworks10

I would say no on the idea that the Polynesians came from the NE. I've say the linguistics, mythology and archaeology evidence speak against it.

However that idea might be better looked at in a thread of its own. I apology in advance as my ability to devote time to posting will be limited for the next two months.




posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by punkinworks10
Here is a very good paper on the subject
m.pnas.org...
I still see a glaring flaw I logic, in that they tie all human presence in oceana with the presence of the rat. If the earliest people in the area dis not carry the rat then rat sign would not be present.


Ones uses what common archaeological evidence you have across multiple sites, lapita, rats and pigs, whatever.

Yep and if people suddenly stop using stone tools, pottery and burn their dead and dispose of their ashes in running water they also will 'disappear' in the archaeological record - as long as they don't disturb the soil or alter the environment which shows up in other ways.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by Hanslune
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Hey Punkinworks10

I would say no on the idea that the Polynesians came from the NE. I've say the linguistics, mythology and archaeology evidence speak against it.
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However that idea might be better looked at in a thread of its own. I apology in advance as my ability to devote time to posting will be limited for the next two months.

Hey Hans
Not the north east but northern BC.
But I would have to disagree, the fact that the haida and Tinglit share striking cultural similarities to hawaiians and their origin mythology is almost identical speaks volumes .
Then there is the fact that polynesians share the 9 base pair deletion with native Americans is hard to discount.
Other things that attest to a shared heritage are the penis/vagina mortar and pestle. The use of woven mats as currency and the use of the calabash for food and water storage. In fact the hawaiian calabash is a north American varietal.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by punkinworks10

Originally posted by Hanslune
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Hey Punkinworks10

I would say no on the idea that the Polynesians came from the NE. I've say the linguistics, mythology and archaeology evidence speak against it.
.
However that idea might be better looked at in a thread of its own. I apology in advance as my ability to devote time to posting will be limited for the next two months.

Hey Hans
Not the north east but northern BC.
But I would have to disagree, the fact that the haida and Tinglit share striking cultural similarities to hawaiians and their origin mythology is almost identical speaks volumes .
Then there is the fact that polynesians share the 9 base pair deletion with native Americans is hard to discount.
Other things that attest to a shared heritage are the penis/vagina mortar and pestle. The use of woven mats as currency and the use of the calabash for food and water storage. In fact the hawaiian calabash is a north American varietal.


North east pacific was what I meant - are you using the materials of Peter Marsh? If so he tends to make stuff up or misquote sources.

Calabashes are of two base types African and Asian - Hawaiian are Asian

It doesn't speak volumes check what PM is claiming with other sources

Radiocarbon dates

Wakashan is related to Inuit it has connection with Polynesian
edit on 26/1/13 by Hanslune because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Cinrad
Archaeologists are the most arrogant of all the "professional scientists", they really know squat. Every day they are revising the official story of history.

++facepalm++

There is no "official story". There are widely accepted narratives that are constructed from the best available evidence. The very fact that they are changing narratives in reaction to new evidence, means they are doing their jobs as scientists.





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