1340 By celebrating the Last Supper with his apostles in the course of the Passover meal, Jesus gave the Jewish Passover its definitive meaning. Jesus' passing over to his father by his death and Resurrection, the new Passover, is anticipated in the Supper and celebrated in the Eucharist, which fulfills the Jewish Passover and anticipates the final Passover of the Church in the glory of the kingdom.

"Do this in memory of me"

1341 The command of Jesus to repeat his actions and words "until he comes" does not only ask us to remember Jesus and what he did. It is directed at the liturgical celebration, by the apostles and their successors, of the memorial of Christ, of his life, of his death, of his Resurrection, and of his intercession in the presence of the Father.167 ...

1343 It was above all on "the first day of the week," Sunday, the day of Jesus' resurrection, that the Christians met "to break bread."169 From that time on down to our own day the celebration of the Eucharist has been continued so that today we encounter it everywhere in the Church with the same fundamental structure. It remains the center of the Church's life.

1344 Thus from celebration to celebration, as they proclaim the Paschal mystery of Jesus "until he comes," the pilgrim People of God advances, "following the narrow way of the cross,"170 toward the heavenly banquet, when all the elect will be seated at the table of the kingdom.

Originally posted by rigel4
reply to post by colbe

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Thanks for the clarification, and I believe that we should all just believe in God!
Bless you colbe

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Colbe posted that there will be Holy Mass in heaven and that everyone will be Roman Catholic.
That is theologically incorrect and is NOT in accord with Catholic teaching. The Mass will only take place until Jesus returns. After that, there is no need. The Mass is based on faith. There is no 'faith' in heaven. No 'Catholic' faith either. Faith is gone. The Beatific Vision does away with the need for 'faith'. Faith is the anticipation of what will come. The Beatific Vision is there. No more anticipation. Therefore, there will be no Catholics (or Baptists or Lutherans or ____ ) in heaven. There will only be people with fulfilled faith in God.

Catholic Catechism on the Holy Mass

1340 By celebrating the Last Supper with his apostles in the course of the Passover meal, Jesus gave the Jewish Passover its definitive meaning. Jesus' passing over to his father by his death and Resurrection, the new Passover, is anticipated in the Supper and celebrated in the Eucharist, which fulfills the Jewish Passover and anticipates the final Passover of the Church in the glory of the kingdom.

"Do this in memory of me"

1341 The command of Jesus to repeat his actions and words "until he comes" does not only ask us to remember Jesus and what he did. It is directed at the liturgical celebration, by the apostles and their successors, of the memorial of Christ, of his life, of his death, of his Resurrection, and of his intercession in the presence of the Father.167 ...

1343 It was above all on "the first day of the week," Sunday, the day of Jesus' resurrection, that the Christians met "to break bread."169 From that time on down to our own day the celebration of the Eucharist has been continued so that today we encounter it everywhere in the Church with the same fundamental structure. It remains the center of the Church's life.

1344 Thus from celebration to celebration, as they proclaim the Paschal mystery of Jesus "until he comes," the pilgrim People of God advances, "following the narrow way of the cross,"170 toward the heavenly banquet, when all the elect will be seated at the table of the kingdom.

Heaven is the fulfillment of the Mass.
- Read St. Thomas Aquinas.

The Eucharist is the sacrifice of the Church.
There is no need for sacrifice once the sheep and the goats have been separated.

The Eucharist is a sacrament.
There are no sacraments in heaven. Sacraments are for a temporal framework.

The Eucharist is a veil for us to receive Christ.
In heaven, we will be in constant communion with the Savior, and through him, the Trinity, without any veil.

The Eucharist is a sacrifice in a temporal framework.
There are no sacrifices in heaven. Heaven is the consummation of all sacrifices, hope and faith.
Sacrifice belongs to the period of faith and hope - earth.
In heaven .. no faith. No hope. The reality of the Beatific Vision takes those away.

And some deeper theology -
The sacrifice of The Lamb in the liturgy will be made obsolete by the heavenly nuptials of the Lamb.

This is what the Catholic Church teaches about it's own Holy Mass. And according to the Catholic faith, ALL GOOD CATHOLICS MUST BELIEVE THIS AS WELL. Scripture reference - Jesus speaking to Peter whom He just made head of His church on Earth - "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." .... So the Church has officially and repeatedly pronounced that there is NO MASS and NO FAITH in Heaven. There is no need.

The book of Revelation does not say that there is “Mass” in heaven. In fact, St. John specifies that there is no longer any sacrifice being offered in heaven – therefore, there can be no Mass!

In the fifth chapter, St. John presents the “Lamb who had been slain”, which is Christ. This is the closest to sacrifice the book comes, but even here it is clear that the Lamb is not being offered – rather, the Lamb has already been consummated and now comes to bring final consummation and judgment upon the earth! ...

The Lamb once slain is not a priest offering sacrifice, but is priest consummated. Indeed, it is clear that he is not being offered, for the heavenly host says thou wast slain in the past tense. Indeed, the Lamb which once was slain and has redeemed his people, now (in heaven and at the end of time) gives eternal glory to his saints and receives their praises.

There is no Mass in heaven, because there is no re-presentation of the Sacrifice of the Cross. While there is surely “Liturgy” (insofar as the saints and angels praise God forever), there is no sacrifice – but Christ reigns as priest consummated and consummating

Originally posted by colbe
Same as old, some modern sects reject the Trinity but in their Protestant way often ask, where is the Trinity in Holy Scripture?

God the Father, Son an Holy Spirit, Amen. Here is a verse on God the Holy Spirit, third person of the Blessed Trinity.

It states the Holy Spirit is a person. A person feels grief, experiences mourning.

Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God: whereby you are sealed unto the day of redemption.


www.drbo.org...

The Catholic Church specifically says Christ does not die again—his death is once for all. It would be something else if the Church were to claim he does die again, but it doesn’t make that claim. Through his intercessory ministry in heaven and through the Mass, Jesus continues to offer himself to his Father as a living sacrifice, and he does so in what the Church specifically states is "an unbloody manner"—one that does not involve a new crucifixion.
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Originally posted by IsidoreOfSeville
reply to post by truejew

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This thread has evolved greatly, (is the topic still relevant?) even though I stated I would not respond anymore, I felt compelled to chime in on this aspect of the thread.

With that said, I'm researching a definitive answer, however, I'm leaning towards agreeing with FF.

In the mean time, I would like to point out that:

The Catholic Church specifically says Christ does not die again—his death is once for all. It would be something else if the Church were to claim he does die again, but it doesn’t make that claim. Through his intercessory ministry in heaven and through the Mass, Jesus continues to offer himself to his Father as a living sacrifice, and he does so in what the Church specifically states is "an unbloody manner"—one that does not involve a new crucifixion.
source

But I'm sure you'll disagree as usual.

edit on 2/6/2013 by IsidoreOfSeville because: Added some more thoughts and clarity.

1344 Thus from celebration to celebration, as they proclaim the Paschal mystery of Jesus "until he comes," the pilgrim People of God advances, "following the narrow way of the cross,"170 toward the heavenly banquet, when all the elect will be seated at the table of the kingdom

1340 By celebrating the Last Supper with his apostles in the course of the Passover meal, Jesus gave the Jewish Passover its definitive meaning. Jesus' passing over to his father by his death and Resurrection, the new Passover, is anticipated in the Supper and celebrated in the Eucharist, which fulfills the Jewish Passover and anticipates the final Passover of the Church in the glory of the kingdom.

"Do this in memory of me"

1341 The command of Jesus to repeat his actions and words "until he comes" does not only ask us to remember Jesus and what he did. It is directed at the liturgical celebration, by the apostles and their successors, of the memorial of Christ, of his life, of his death, of his Resurrection, and of his intercession in the presence of the Father.167 ...

1343 It was above all on "the first day of the week," Sunday, the day of Jesus' resurrection, that the Christians met "to break bread."169 From that time on down to our own day the celebration of the Eucharist has been continued so that today we encounter it everywhere in the Church with the same fundamental structure. It remains the center of the Church's life.

1344 Thus from celebration to celebration, as they proclaim the Paschal mystery of Jesus "until he comes," the pilgrim People of God advances, "following the narrow way of the cross,"170 toward the heavenly banquet, when all the elect will be seated at the table of the kingdom.

Who can imagine there is no Eucharist in Heaven?

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by colbe
MOST all of those who responded disagreed with him.

Oh? ALL the people responding at these Catholic sites agree with me.
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"Take this, all of you, and drink from it: for this is the chalice of my Blood, the Blood of the new and eternal covenant, which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins"

Guess what?
With everyone in Heaven or Hell .. there will be no more 'forgiveness of sins' necessary.

"For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."
Proclaiming his death .. UNTIL HE COMES.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by colbe
Where in the Catechism does say there is no Mass offered in Heaven?

I already gave it. The Eucharist in Mass is to take place 'UNTIL HE COMES AGAIN".
Catholic Catechism on the Holy Mass

1340 By celebrating the Last Supper with his apostles in the course of the Passover meal, Jesus gave the Jewish Passover its definitive meaning. Jesus' passing over to his father by his death and Resurrection, the new Passover, is anticipated in the Supper and celebrated in the Eucharist, which fulfills the Jewish Passover and anticipates the final Passover of the Church in the glory of the kingdom.

"Do this in memory of me"

1341 The command of Jesus to repeat his actions and words "until he comes" does not only ask us to remember Jesus and what he did. It is directed at the liturgical celebration, by the apostles and their successors, of the memorial of Christ, of his life, of his death, of his Resurrection, and of his intercession in the presence of the Father.167 ...

1343 It was above all on "the first day of the week," Sunday, the day of Jesus' resurrection, that the Christians met "to break bread."169 From that time on down to our own day the celebration of the Eucharist has been continued so that today we encounter it everywhere in the Church with the same fundamental structure. It remains the center of the Church's life.

1344 Thus from celebration to celebration, as they proclaim the Paschal mystery of Jesus "until he comes," the pilgrim People of God advances, "following the narrow way of the cross,"170 toward the heavenly banquet, when all the elect will be seated at the table of the kingdom.

Wanna show me where it says in the Catechism that there will be sacraments and Eucharistic sacrifice in heaven after Jesus comes again?? It doesn't make any theological sense.

There will be 'liturgy' .. prayer .. absolutely. But NO SACRAMENTS.
Those are for helping those on Earth. Those in heaven have no need of them.
They have the beatific vision.

Who can imagine there is no Eucharist in Heaven?

Again .. there is NO NEED. You will have the beatific vision. Christ is totally present. The Eucharist is a SACRAMENT and there are no need of sacraments in heaven. No baptism. No confession. No marriage. No extreme unction. No holy orders taking place. No communion - because you will already be in FULL COMMUNION with God via the Beatific Vision.

The Eucharist is a sacrifice. There will be no need for a sacrifice in heaven once everyone has been separated into heaven and hell. It's common sense and theologically correct to say - no Eucharistic sacrifice in heaven after the end of time.