Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by primalfractal
Some interesting research confirming aether in so called "empty" space. The article seems to say aether is even admitted by science to be real in
There is fundamental gap in your attempt to comprehend this material. There is a striking difference between
Vacuum Energy and the mechanistic medium that you insist is needed for the fields to propagate.
The science has the notion of the former while it does not have a notion of the latter, because it's not needed. Again, there are a few different
kinds of FIELDS that exist, which sometimes exhibit certain behavior which is termed in various contexts as vacuum energy etc. I know it's annoying
for you, but these are FIELDS, not your magic jelly, without which you can't grasp the concept of a wave. Sorry, you can't have that crutch. Will
need to learn how to walk without it.
1. So, if a concept (here the medium, the fundamental substance of the universe we call Aether) is not necessary to obtain satisfactory results, then
it doesn't exist, right?
That's what quantum scientists say: "We don't need an Aether for our equations to work, therefore it proves Aether doesn't exist."
If I calculate the trajectory of an arrow, I don't need to enter the concepts (here forces) gravity or electromagnetism as variables for my equations
to work, they are unnecessary variables. Then it proves that gravity and electromagnetism doesn't exist... NOT!
This is a completely fallacious reasoning of course.
The fact that Aether wouldn't
be needed as a variable, in no way would
prove its non existence, nor does the fact say they don't
detect any (already adressed in previous posts).
Moreover, it's a lie.
2. Proof is that they have to create concepts like 'vacuum energy' and 'virtual particles'. Anything will do as long as they don't call it
Vacuum energy theory
considers vacuum to implicitly have the same properties as a particle, such as spin or polarization in the case of light,
energy, and so on.
But hey, it’s NOT matter, get it?!
First they prove a point I made earlier: To keep on hiding the fact that their theories are full of holes and don't withstand objective (and
rational) scrutiny, they have to create more and more nonsensical concepts.
An underlying background energy that exists in space throughout the entire Universe.
Where does energy come from if not matter?! Can energy be independent and not attached to matter, now?
Yes, they say, it comes from VIRTUAL matter (particles).
So, a virtual Aether (because these virtual particles are said to pop up literally out of nothing and do so "through out the entire universe") is an
ok concept but not an actual, physical Aether???
Second, they've just explained to you that "spontaneous creation" is a scientific concept now.
No, they say, we will never be the proponents of such stupid religious ideas/concepts... We rename them first. (Emphasis added)
Really? Let’s check:
Vacuum (NOTHING) energy can also be thought of in terms of virtual particles (also known as vacuum fluctuations) which are created and destroyed
out of the vacuum (NOTHING).
Emphasis added based on their own definition of the concept vacuum:
According to the theory, most of these properties cancel out on average leaving the vacuum empty in the literal sense of the word.
Meaning a vacuum is comprised of NOTHING.
What is a ‘volume’ (of space) composed by NOTHING? Well, it’s simply NOTHING.
So, virtual (meaning NON-EXISTING, NOT REAL or NOT PHYSICAL) particles are created from… NOTHING. These virtual particles create (are the equivalent
of) vacuum energy (the ‘energy of nothing’) which explains well, EVERYTHING (from the big bang, to electromagnetic fields).
And yes, virtual particles and vacuum energy are used to explain how the big bang could have happened.
It didn't appear out of nowhere and was created from nothing, no (we wouldn’t want to break the law of conservation of energy now, would we)… It
was created from vacuum energy and virtual particles!
And they say that with a straight face...
Where the hell am I living? It's like being part of an episode of the twilight zone, literally.