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Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by mbkennel
What are vacuum fluctuations?
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by primalfractal
Some interesting research confirming aether in so called "empty" space. The article seems to say aether is even admitted by science to be real in this case.
There is fundamental gap in your attempt to comprehend this material. There is a striking difference between Vacuum Energy and the mechanistic medium that you insist is needed for the fields to propagate. The science has the notion of the former while it does not have a notion of the latter, because it's not needed. Again, there are a few different kinds of FIELDS that exist, which sometimes exhibit certain behavior which is termed in various contexts as vacuum energy etc. I know it's annoying for you, but these are FIELDS, not your magic jelly, without which you can't grasp the concept of a wave. Sorry, you can't have that crutch. Will need to learn how to walk without it.
considers vacuum to implicitly have the same properties as a particle, such as spin or polarization in the case of light, energy, and so on.
An underlying background energy that exists in space throughout the entire Universe.
Vacuum (NOTHING) energy can also be thought of in terms of virtual particles (also known as vacuum fluctuations) which are created and destroyed out of the vacuum (NOTHING).
According to the theory, most of these properties cancel out on average leaving the vacuum empty in the literal sense of the word.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by buddhasystem
Some people have the ability to put things in their own words. People who have concepts that they haven't memorized out of a textbook. You wouldn't understand.
Originally posted by 1Agnostic1
Vacuum energy:
An underlying background energy that exists in space throughout the entire Universe.
Where does energy come from if not matter?! Can energy be independent and not attached to matter, now?
Yes, they say, it comes from VIRTUAL matter (particles).
So, a virtual Aether (because these virtual particles are said to pop up literally out of nothing and do so "through out the entire universe") is an ok concept but not an actual, physical Aether???
So, virtual (meaning NON-EXISTING, NOT REAL or NOT PHYSICAL) particles are created from… NOTHING
These virtual particles create (are the equivalent of) vacuum energy (the ‘energy of nothing’) which explains well, EVERYTHING (from the big bang, to electromagnetic fields).
Phenomenal!
Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by buddhasystem
Some people have the ability to put things in their own words. People who have concepts that they haven't memorized out of a textbook. You wouldn't understand.
Originally posted by 1Agnostic1
So, if a concept (here the medium, the fundamental substance of the universe we call Aether) is not necessary to obtain satisfactory results, then it doesn't exist, right? That's what quantum scientists say: "We don't need an Aether for our equations to work, therefore it proves Aether doesn't exist." Er, what?
The scientific method (or simply scientific method) is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.
If I calculate the trajectory of an arrow, I don't need to enter the concepts (here forces) gravity or electromagnetism as variables for my equations to work, they are unnecessary variables. Then it proves that gravity and electromagnetism doesn't exist... NOT!
Proof is that they have to create concepts like 'vacuum energy' and 'virtual particles'. Anything will do as long as they don't call it Aether.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by buddhasystem
Your mainstream physics is not holding up under scrutiny
Originally posted by mbkennel
However, the theory of quantum fields, which does use 'virtual particles' in its calculations does explain certain electromagnetic quantum mechanical phenomena which have been measured to high numerical precision and confirmed with theory. Doing computations without including virtual particles gets the wrong answer.
It's strange, but it appears to be true.
A made up object to make the math work is not using math to assist in a task it's fantasizing reality.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by DenyObfuscation
I think the reference to "vacuum fluctuations" in the dictionary definition of zero point energy:
The zero point energy of a vacuum is not zero due to vacuum fluctuations.
does not differ from the aether/ether.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Originally posted by mbkennel
However, the theory of quantum fields, which does use 'virtual particles' in its calculations does explain certain electromagnetic quantum mechanical phenomena which have been measured to high numerical precision and confirmed with theory. Doing computations without including virtual particles gets the wrong answer.
It's strange, but it appears to be true.
A made up object to make the math work is not using math to assist in a task it's fantasizing reality.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by buddhasystem
BS is not going to do this because he insists that Col. Tom Bearden is a "charlatan," but others should check out his website and read his thorough research into the history of what's been going on with the mathematics associated with electromagnetism.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by buddhasystem
All the crap you post to obfuscate the verifiable, documented history of electromagnetism and the science of it is not going to change anything for people who have discernment.