This is all very interesting. It's going to take me some time to read through all of it, and understand it all. One thing that stands out for me at the moment is the 5 billion, and possibly more that's owed to each of us. How do we get that? Will we get that? I could really use that for many, many things. It'd make it possible for me to have a few acres of land with a small house, and a garden. Just one of the things I dream about having some day.

Originally posted by CatrionaBeldame
This is all very interesting. It's going to take me some time to read through all of it, and understand it all. One thing that stands out for me at the moment is the 5 billion, and possibly more that's owed to each of us. How do we get that? Will we get that? I could really use that for many, many things. It'd make it possible for me to have a few acres of land with a small house, and a garden. Just one of the things I dream about having some day.

Hold on to those dreams, and keep them alive. Yes it doesn't mean we all get 5B in our banks or our hands, it just means the hoarding of value (money, items, etc) are to be returned or "reset" so everyone is equal.

But literally, the foreclosing documents cited that each human being is equally owed this.


I remember years ago the battle that was won with foreclosed farms (and Willie Nelson was deeply involved in the Farm Aid stuff), but those "wins" have all been kept frozen, much like this whole thing. Someone had to act and file all the appropriate paperwork and that's what you see here.

Originally posted by fourthmealPersonal disclosure: I will continue to pay my IRS bill and all the other loans and stuff, until the truth of all of this hits home to the people at large. I do this because, like most, I am fearful that though these actions have occurred and there has indeed been rulings, things could go terribly wrong because I am not protected from harassment and jail or whatever YET. In other words people in authority could lie or cheat or otherwise defeat me by ignoring the rulings. Sure, over time I might be able to mount a case that would free me, but right now my path is not to fight the system directly and "test" it. Right now, my path is to continue on my spiritual journey and make sure my family is fed, clothed, and sheltered.

And this is the very thing which keeps things as they are. The ones manipulating and ruling the system, have created an environment in which people are just slightly more afraid of losing what they still have than they are of the people controlling them.

This is one thing which the controlling elite have to fear...the moment that the majority of people finally loose everything, they will no longer have anything left to lose in regards to standing up against the controlling elite.

Society rules... if you don't like them.. buy yourself an island and make your own

I can't afford my own apartment, but ok I'll go buy myself an island

As for OP...idk, I've heard similar things for a while now...hopefully it's true, that will be great...but I'm neither going to believe nor dis-believe. If it turns out true, no belief will be required

This all sounds like the "sovereign citizens" movement. I have seen a resurgance of this information and made a few new FB friends who also promote this view, so I am willing to re-examine it, but last I checked, there was a ton of info debunking these claims.

Regardless, I would urge people who follow this stuff to proceed with caution.

Edit to add: I'm having a hard time reading through the People's Trust announcement right now, as it sounds like a giant lead-up to a sales pitch. It is also verbose (even the non legal-speak portion), full of grammatical errors ("veil of allusion"), and inadequately presents the information, as most of these claimants do, or they link to incredibly difficult to understand legal documents, and I'm sorry, but unless you have a degree in law or have seriously studied it, no layperson will be able to grasp most of it. You can pretend you do, look up a few definitions and maybe sail by, but this stuff is WAY over most people's heads. Given the way I keep seeing it presented, I'd wager most people like to regurgitate the info with very little clue themselves as to what they are talking about. 5B/person sure is exciting. I can be wrong, and I'll be the first to admit it, but my b.s. meter is off the charts.

Yes, Yes, A4V right? "Accept for Value" meaning....That when a lender sends you a bill it is in fact written on "legal tender" equipped with routing numbers on the bottom. My friend has used these debt slips (payment slips) and turned them into a money order wiping out the original debt. Because the debt slip is on legal tender and by him assigning his signiture i.e. his Social Security Number as the authorization for the debtor to get the money from the IRS from the "People's Trust". Since the US is now a corporation and our Birth Cirtificates were sold and we became listed as an asset to said trust.

He received plenty of phone calls from said debtors but no one wiped out his debt. He showed me the legal precedence etc, etc. And I'm not saying it isn't correct just saying that if the governments and bankors chose not to play how do you force their hand? My friend supposedly sued them for not responding to a legal document he sent (not from a lawyer) after having it noterized which makes it a legal document.

He has also told me that the "people" who bought the Stock Market are supposed to be lifting "the curtain" on these corrupt scumbags but here's my issue.....

If the bankors created this corrupt ponzi scheme hand in hand with world leaders, then what makes you think they will willingly allow you to beat them at their own game? I'd imagine that anyone who had any information or indictment that would make this whole scheme come crashing down would have already tragiclly drowned by "accident" fishing in a canoe or ultimately met their end on the way home from said fishing trip by crashing into a wooded forest in a small Cesna.

See Vincent Foster (who happened to be a lawyer himself before whacked by the Clintons, See David Kelly....you get the idea.