reply to post by NysgjerrigDame
It is a complete failure since it promotes a sense of utopia when in reality people need incentives in a society. Those incentives are what keep
people trying to do better and become more. Without them, a society stagnates as people seek the only compensation offered (less effort needed for a
Communism has killed MILLIONS of people in its short history. We can say that Marxists communism is an advocate of violent revolution as a preferable
means to societal change. It promotes an "anything goes" philosophy that it justifies as legitimate in establishing a "perfect" utopian society. This
has never been the case because when all opposition was removed, the force and strength of the state is then turned on the people so the state can
keep its high level of control and interference in peoples lives. (Fascism).
Communism like socialism leads to an ever growing government that with every passing moment has greater public expenditure with less return in public
benefits. As government spending on itself increases, the people get less of their own resources for their own existence and less is invested in them.
In the end the many types of communism and any form of socialism are always advocated by the pulling of heart strings so as to distort facts and paint
a picture that those who only want power can use to get it. It is always a "morally" fueled argument, an emotionally charged mentality, and a rabid
sense of hysteria that advocates what is not based in logic, fact, and practice.
Would it be nice? Sure. I would also like to be He-man and date She-ra....but nice and ideal have no place in the real world where people´s lives
hang in the balance as do their dinner tables and wallets that depend on a stable system that rewards their efforts with just compensation, NOT a pat
on the back for their solidarity.
You mentioned Spain? They had a Marxist insurgency that stole the elections and made the republic which sparked the controversy that led to the coup
by Franco. The republic talked a nice game but did nothing while in power to address the issues the people were facing. Then during the civil war that
followed the communists employed criminals they hired from captured prisons or other hell holes to go on terror campaigns against civilian opposition,
raping and pillaging like barbaric devils. The Marxists communists were known as the red terror for their tactics.
It is a fairy tale that selfish and often lazy people advocate out of spite or over emotional baggage they do not address personally so they
externalize it in their political ideology. It has had no success anywhere and all the defense of it can say is that it failed for its implementation
in less than perfect purity of the concept. They ignore the many dictatorships that it has made and the many MILLIONS of people that died in direct
consequence of it.
For any lover of freedom and leftist ideals to advocate it is contradictory and shows how little they do not understand it as well as how little of
history they have read outside of the books that sell them communism itself.
MY family saw first hand what the communists did in Spain. They were enemies of the people and out for their own criminal power grab at all costs and
over all the dead and tortured bodies necessary to get it.
My great uncle fought for Castro in Cuba. When the war was over they made him cut sugar cane in the sun for years as slave labor. If he thought to
protest this, ask for a transfer, or tried to do anything but cut sugar cane like a slave in horrible conditions, he would have been beaten or worse.
My grandmother in Cuba almost got arrested and would have been killed for having a couple steaks that were illegal. I could tell you all the stories
that I have heard, but from a Spaniard whose family was brutalized by the communists, and a Cuban descendant whose family fought FOR communism at one
point only to be made into a slave and for his family to live in abject poverty and fear, I can safely say I don't like communism.
What I find amusing is that the proponents of communism or even socialism cant believe that some one wouldn't like the idea of it. That if we don't
agree we MUST be ignorant of it or don't understand it. It is funny how little they know of it beyond what limited books they have memorized about it.
It is beyond them that some one can completely understand how it works and NOT support it, so they call us ignorant, dumb, or evil.
They are dirty radicals that would jeopardize every ones well being, safety and happiness for childish and reckless ideas and then walk away like
cowards as they have always done when communism showed its teeth and its true intentions.
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