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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
I am before thought - thought appears to me.
Thoughts appear and tempt you, they want to play. It is fun for a while playing with the thoughts (and trolls are like thoughts) but you must realize they are not worth disturbing your peace for. If you watch them and watch your reaction to them notice emotion is rising, if you do it can be fun just experiencing the colour of you changing, the feeling, the sensation. But what can happen is the emotion takes over and then you are not clear headed. You can feel all hot and know it and enjoy it but still play. But it is a dangerous game if you don't know what is happening.
Of course, death doesn't "really" exist since there is always "The One" (consciousness all is a part of), but life is The One splitting itself into Two and observing itself.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by arpgme
Of course, death doesn't "really" exist since there is always "The One" (consciousness all is a part of), but life is The One splitting itself into Two and observing itself.
You 100% sure of that. that death isnt final.....I mean 100% not 99%.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
One problem with your logic...we cannot have thought without the mechanism to create such thought.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Since the existence of a Soul has not been proven
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by arpgme
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Of course, death doesn't "really" exist since there is always "The One" (consciousness all is a part of), but life is The One splitting itself into Two and observing itself.
You 100% sure of that. that death isnt final.....I mean 100% not 99%.
I don't know anything with "absolute" certainty except the fact that now is happening, but I am "highly" certain that it does.
Originally posted by arpgme
Potential is not existence, it is the capability to be ABLE to exist.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by trysts
It doesn't make sense that he would conclude that he exists due to his ability to doubt. It does make sense for him to doubt that he exists except that he thinks, and therefore the thoughts exist.
Thoughts exists. Personalities exist. Emotions exist. The outside world exists. But the one who can watch all these things appear does not exist.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by trysts
When before a thought comes up in your mind, what is there? Nothing - Emptiness - Silence. It is from that "Space" that thoughts arises. You are OBSERVING your thoughts, so you are not your thoughts...
Originally posted by arpgme
I didn't say, "potential" - the concept - does not exist.
I said "potential" - is not "existence" (being).
Potentiality and potency are translations of the Ancient Greek word dunamis (δύναμις) as it is used by Aristotle as a concept contrasting with actuality. Its Latin translation is "potentia", root of the English word potential, and used by some scholars instead of the Greek or English variants. Dunamis is an ordinary Greek word for possibility or capability. Depending on context, it could be translated "potency", "potential", "capacity", "ability", "power", "capability", "strength", "possibility", "force" and is the root of modern English words "dynamic", "dynamite", and "dynamo".[5] In early modern philosophy, English authors like Hobbes and Locke used the English word "power" as their translation of Latin potentia
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by trysts
It doesn't make sense that he would conclude that he exists due to his ability to doubt. It does make sense for him to doubt that he exists except that he thinks, and therefore the thoughts exist.
Thoughts exists. Personalities exist. Emotions exist. The outside world exists. But the one who can watch all these things appear does not exist.
You lost me on the last sentence.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by trysts
When before a thought comes up in your mind, what is there? Nothing - Emptiness - Silence. It is from that "Space" that thoughts arises. You are OBSERVING your thoughts, so you are not your thoughts...
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by trysts
It doesn't make sense that he would conclude that he exists due to his ability to doubt. It does make sense for him to doubt that he exists except that he thinks, and therefore the thoughts exist.
Thoughts exists. Personalities exist. Emotions exist. The outside world exists. But the one who can watch all these things appear does not exist.
You lost me on the last sentence.
I'm basically saying, there is no difference between the perceived and the perceiver. It is all one.
BUT, the perceived is what stands out as existing. The perceiver can only define itself according to what it sees and thinks, so therefore, it seems accurate, to me, to say that there is no experiencer, only an experience.
If you believe this, as I do, then you can feel the experience as yourself, which it is. You feel more alive because you feel like you are what is happening, rather feeling like you are just the happenings of your inner dialogue and emotions (which are also an experiencer).
If there is a concrete observer, I imagine it exists as much as a bottomless pit exists. It's not that it's there as a thing, it's just that the things around in which are visually there define it as a thing that is not there. So it is like the thing that isn't a thing.
Probably why galaxies take on the forms they do, as a reflection, or scaled down image, of the universal beingness that we are.