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Originally posted by sconner755Back to the OP: how disgustingly ironic that you, in your own thread, are spewing your own type of hate towards those who expressed their opinions. I think you should immediately turn yourself in, or at least ban yourself from posting.
Did you read what I posted about what happened to my daughter? If not I suggest you go back and read it and then come and maybe not be so patronising
where is the line, when does acceptable freedom of speech become hateful, vitriolic and damaging.
Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by SpaceMonkeys
You just don't get it, you fully accept that there should be restrictions on what you can say on a forum, but don't think that should apply in real life? Because it's not about what Govt says we can and can't say, it's about what society decides is acceptable and what is not. The hypothetical example given a few posts above ours about someone taking their disabled son out and having all sorts of abuse shouted at them, is unacceptable, and sadly whilst that was a hypothetical example sadly it happens all too often in real life.
So what do you suggest is a reasonable way to deal with people who verbally abuse people for no reason?
I love freedom.
In this case, the right to speak freely, comes with a responsibility to ensure that your statements, especially those you wish to publish, are fair, correct, unbiased, and justly made.
Those freedoms are present in order to advance us as a nation
but are actually examples of rhetorical hate speech, which is not supported by law, and is unsupportable in any sensible morality.
Assault can be verbal as well as physical. Here's a scenario for you. You have a disabled child in a wheelchair who is going to die soon. You take him out for what may be his last view of the outside world. Suddenly I rock up and start pointing at your dying son and saying how his disabled appearance disgusts me and that freaks like him should be kept indoors, or preferably strangled at birth. I finish off by saying that it would give me great pleasure to kill your child, if the law allowed me to.
I suppose in that scenario you'd say "Well I don't necessarily agree with your views good sir, but I respect your right to free speech". No. You'd punch me in the face. Or call the police.
Originally posted by Rising Against
Wow, I came into this thread expecting to see a lot of "well done's", and "thankfully this guy was arrested", but instead I see everyone thus far complaining about it? Seriously? Wow, how absolutely disgusting that is.
The Hillsborough disaster is called a disaster for a reason people. Period. 96 innocent people died that day when they shouldn't have. 96 families were punished in the most horrible way and millions of people even watched this incident take place live on television. It's something that's scarred many. And someone's actually ranting about it and being highly offensive to the victims, victims of which were blamed for their own deaths up until this year until the truth finally came out.
Yet, bearing this in mind, the fact that someone is offending those who wrongly died, some of which were yet to reach the age of 15, the offender is being defended right here on ATS. That actually makes me quite sad to be a member.
Well done for this moron being arrested. He can spew his hate in prison.
Edit: Sad thing is I'll probably be one of the only one's saying this too. But, it has to be said really. This is just pure hate speech from a pure moron. The fact some are defending it sickens me too.edit on 30-12-2012 by Rising Against because: (no reason given)