"I may deport myself" says Piers Morgan, if we don't change "crazy gun laws", page 2

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 04:12 AM by IkNOwSTuff

Let me get this straight.....

He lives in and loves the US, he didnt say anything bad about it all he did was say gun laws need to be changed and this is the response

90,000+ sign a petition to deport him and the normally sensible freedom loving members on here support it!!!!!

So how many generations do your ancestors have to be in the US before the 1st Amendment applies?

Your all a bunch of hypocrites

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 04:25 AM by rockoperawriter

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

because he's not a citizen. it is illegal for foriegn press to voice their opinion about the constitution when they are not citizens while in the us.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 04:25 AM by beezzer

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

USA
USA
USA

America is #1 among ALL 3rd world countries! YEAH!

I think most here would fight for free speech for anyone! But if the Morgan guy whines, "I'm leaving if the US Constitution doesn't change" then why shouldn't we enjoy his self-important verbal vomit?

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 04:33 AM by ignorant_ape

reply to post by rockoperawriter

please cite your claim

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 04:40 AM by rockoperawriter

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a supreme court ruling in 1972

Kleindienst v. Mandel, 408 U.S. 753 (1972), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that the United States Attorney General has the right to refuse somebody's entry to the United States, as he has been empowered to do so in 212 (a) (28) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952.

This action was brought to compel Attorney General Kleindienst to grant a temporary nonimmigrant visa to a Belgian journalist and Marxian theoretician whom the American plaintiff-appellees, Ernest Mandel et al., had invited to participate in academic conferences and discussions in the US. The alien had been found ineligible for admission under 212 (a) (28) (D) and (G) (v) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, barring those who advocate or publish "the economic, international, and governmental doctrines of world communism." Kleindienst had declined to waive ineligibility as he has the power to do under 212 (d) of the Act, basing his decision on unscheduled activities engaged in by the alien on a previous visit to the United States, when a waiver was granted

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:03 AM by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Let me get this straight.....

He lives in and loves the US, he didnt say anything bad about it all he did was say gun laws need to be changed and this is the response

90,000+ sign a petition to deport him and the normally sensible freedom loving members on here support it!!!!!

So how many generations do your ancestors have to be in the US before the 1st Amendment applies?

Your all a bunch of hypocrites
edit on 30/12/2012 by IkNOwSTuff because: (no reason given)

No, he said forget about the Constitution or he will leave. My response, please leave then.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:08 AM by rockoperawriter

reply to post by OccamsRazor04

yes if you don't like our constitution, move to another neighborhood in the uk

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:11 AM by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

USA
USA
USA

America is #1 among ALL 3rd world countries! YEAH!

I think most here would fight for free speech for anyone! But if the Morgan guy whines, "I'm leaving if the US Constitution doesn't change" then why shouldn't we enjoy his self-important verbal vomit?

I will fight for his freedom. He is free to say he wants to leave. He is free to leave.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:12 AM by OccamsRazor04

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That appears to deal with Communism. Not anything against the Constitution.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:17 AM by IkNOwSTuff

Originally posted by rockoperawriter
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

because he's not a citizen. it is illegal for foriegn press to voice their opinion about the constitution when they are not citizens while in the us.

Hes a legal resident therefore it applies to him

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:22 AM by IkNOwSTuff

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I read the entire article linked by the OP and didnt find where he said or anything close to that.

He said the constitution was ambiguous and makes people think they can have military style weapons when a simple handgun or revolver would be enough for protection.

The guy isnt even anti gun hes anti assault type weapons in the hands of the public

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:26 AM by IkNOwSTuff

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No, he said forget about the Constitution or he will leave. My response, please leave then.

Can you highlight where he said that or are you paraphrasing to make it sound better?

Ill give you a direct quote of his as an example

‘You are an unbelievably stupid man.’

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:31 AM by beezzer

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by beezzer

He said the constitution was ambiguous and makes people think they can have military style weapons when a simple handgun or revolver would be enough for protection.

I must have missed that part of the 2nd Amendment. Dang!

And using his logic, I guess we can fool around with the Magna Carta as well!

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:32 AM by rockoperawriter

reply to post by OccamsRazor04

he still got deported for being unconstitutional and not being a citizen.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:34 AM by rockoperawriter

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff

Originally posted by rockoperawriter
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

Hes a legal resident therefore it applies to him

does he have a green card?

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:37 AM by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by OccamsRazor04

No, he said forget about the Constitution or he will leave. My response, please leave then.

Can you highlight where he said that or are you paraphrasing to make it sound better?

Ill give you a direct quote of his as an example

‘You are an unbelievably stupid man.’
edit on 30/12/2012 by IkNOwSTuff because: (no reason given)

That is a nice quote. Wonder what he would say to crimes involving handguns increasing by 40% after the UK gun ban. This is a quote from him ....
Piers Morgan: 'I'll Deport Myself' If America Doesn't Change Gun Laws'

If America doesn't change gun laws (which means forget the 2nd amendment) he will leave. His quote. I say, when's your flight?

If a foreigner wants to come here and say look, I think there is a better way, I have no problems with that. When they threaten to leave if we don't do what they think is right, I say don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:41 AM by rockoperawriter

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still banning guns here is still very bad on account of the cartel problem.

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 05:56 AM by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by rockoperawriter
reply to post by OccamsRazor04

still banning guns here is still very bad on account of the cartel problem.
edit on 30-12-2012 by rockoperawriter because: (no reason given)

I agree. It's bad for a number of reasons.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 07:33 AM by PvtHudson

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff

He said the constitution was ambiguous and makes people think they can have military style weapons when a simple handgun or revolver would be enough for protection.

The guy isnt even anti gun hes anti assault type weapons in the hands of the public

The main purpose of our 2nd amendment is to give us leverage against our government. You live at the mercy of yours. We do not want to go down that road. It's the very fiber of our culture.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 08:44 AM by jdub297

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Let me get this straight.....
He lives in and loves the US, he didnt say anything bad about it all he did was say gun laws need to be changed and this is the response

You've missed the point entirely. Morgan has used his position to harangue, bully and ridicule American guests whose views he and your neighbors disagree with. He fabricates "statisitcs" and "facts" that he (and you) feel justify ignorance and biased "reporting."

This comes from a man who ruined his UK "news" career ny doctoring photgraphs and altering "news" to fit his (and youtr?) views.

Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan has been sacked after the newspaper conceded photos of British soldiers abusing an Iraqi were fake. In a statement the Mirror said it had fallen victim to a "calculated and malicious hoax" and that it would be "inappropriate" for Morgan to continue.

Editor sacked over 'hoax' photos
This is the epitome of UK "journalism -- don't like the facts? Make some up!

90,000+ sign a petition to deport him and the normally sensible freedom loving members on here support it!

"Normally sensible?" Perhaps if he had a bit less hubris and actually attempted rational discussion instead of nonsensical ravings and rants, "freedom loving members" would give him a bit more respoect. He'll never have any credibility. Why should we permit foreign visitors and aliens, including pretend-journalists such as PM, the "freedom" to inflame and antagonize on our airwaves solely to drive their egos and ratings higher with imaginary "news" and "facts" drawn from thin air and their personal biases, demons and delusions?

So how many generations do your ancestors have to be in the US before the 1st Amendment applies?

You reveal a complete lack of understanding how a written Constitution functions, or of the responsibilities attendant to the freedoms recognized thereunder.

Do any of you even accept the principle that with great freedom comes great responsibility?