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Originally posted by severdsoul
While i still have to watch the video's....
my thoughts are....
psss buddy pass that this way....
because im thinkin you are smoking something real strong.
This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true:
(1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage;
(2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof);
(3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation.
A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed.
Originally posted by JohnLake
reply to post by korathin
I am not gonna start a debate with you, Mr.Knowledge but you should study more about european history.Don't assume you know more than the others "little grasshopper".Besides, your logic is flawed.edit on 23-12-2012 by JohnLake because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Morg234
We live in a mathematical universe; our mathematical formulae derived from it became the foundation of computer logic. Our artificial innovations are in a small way mimicking a facet of the universe... not the other way round.
Originally posted by Tdeflo
The universe is holographic. This allows us to construct a final model of the universe:
The emergence model
Originally posted by jonnywhite
Originally posted by kudegras
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I have always thought it interesting that when the spirit leaves the body the body immediately begins to rapidly break down. No doubt the spirit is the internal mechanism that keeps it all together and helps the blood pump and allowing life and movement.
I'm not a medical student or someone that specializes in that, but what you say is all mushy. Think I'll pass. You know our mind is in our brain and when the body can't pump enough blood or some critical function of the body is disabled, the whole maintenance system starts to fail until the whole thing shuts down. And with it goes the mind too. All of our memories and experiences, gone. There's no magic here, just a lot of science stuff. It's above both our heads, but at least I'm honest.
Occams Razor says to accept the explanation with the least assumptions. My explanation is that it's all physical and that our mind is physical too. By adding a magical element called soul or eternal spirit or whatever, you add an additional assumption and a layer of extra unnecessary complexity.
I don't WANT to believe we're physical. I want to believe there's an after-life. I want to believe that all this pain and suffering is not real after all and that when we die it's all nicely wrapped up. But science and the desire for objectivity encourages me not to pin my hopes on hocus pocus. If we're going to do well, we'll have to do well on our own and can't depend on supernatural forces. This means that when a friend dies of a terrible disease, it's irrevocable. There's no God on the other side to save his soul. There's no angel that will appear and cure him. We have to cure him ourselves.edit on 21-12-2012 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by korathin
Originally posted by Morg234
We live in a mathematical universe; our mathematical formulae derived from it became the foundation of computer logic. Our artificial innovations are in a small way mimicking a facet of the universe... not the other way round.
The one thing that gives me a headache when thinking about a simulated Universe, is the data potential. Or rather what I am trying to say is: The sheer amount of data that can be in existence. The problem with the simulated universe is, that the farther down in the simulated Universes(simulation within a simulation), I find it hard to imagine that the data created wouldn't create problems for the original program system.
It is like 2 to the thousands power x 2 to the thousands power, and so on. The sheer amount of data that could be created is mind boggling. Suppose you have the Alpha simulated universe, the first simulation; then within that simulation they make their own simulations. Depending on how large the availability potential for simulations is(is there just one simulation or is it possible for the creation of millions of simulations by personnel consumers within the Alpha simulation?), the exponential growth makes my brain bleed. I think the word exponential is inadequate to describe the chain reaction of data created.
It is one thing to have computers advanced enough to simulate a Universe, it is another to simulate ten, twenty or a hundred million Universes within the main program and not experience problems because of it. It is like the theory of expansion and contraction of the Universe. It can only expand so far before it crashes. How far depends on a few factors like technology that went into building the simulation, but in the end it will never be enough. Or rather I can't imagine how all the data could be stored. Granted many of the simulated worlds will be lost, as the simulations within the simulations will reach a point of collapse first(but that depends how the program was written to).
I just can't get over the sheer volume/amount/depth/everything of how much data could be involved.
Originally posted by HUMBLEONE
So there has to be CHEAT CODES! Lets find em and get the f$ck outta here, this game sucks!!
Originally posted by Morg234
We live in a mathematical universe; our mathematical formulae derived from it became the foundation of computer logic. Our artificial innovations are in a small way mimicking a facet of the universe... not the other way round.