Originally posted by PrplHrt
This thread is one of the reasons I hate the young.
We gave you a beautiful free country and you're pissing it away.
You don't deserve it.
Just thought this needed to be stated again. Nothing more to add really.
MOTF!
Originally posted by Krusty the Klown
reply to post by zedVSzardoz
I can see where you're coming from, but the implications of the words that I replied to are still valid and relevant to the OP.
Like the poster I replied to, slavery was perfectly acceptable in the Bill of Rights but has since been recognised as unacceptable in a modern setting. The implications to gun control can be seen to be the same.
How many massacres were committed by a single shooter when the Constitution was drawn up? If these massacres were common then, the law may have been written differently.
All legal systems evolve with time, why should gun laws be exempt?edit on 20/12/1212 by Krusty the Klown because: Kan't do grammar
Originally posted by Julie Washington
reply to post by FissionSurplus
Thanks Fission.
I anticipated the heated discussion this article would provoke. I also understand how passionate many are about the 2nd amendment.
Please know that I do not favor disarming Americans and never said that.
I do however, fully support some sort of "automatic" style, military style weapon "gun control".
Originally posted by Julie Washington
"There is thus no constitutional protection whatsoever for the semiautomatic rifle that killed the kids in Newtown."
The Second Amendment is a relic of the founding era more than two centuries ago. Its purpose is long past. As Justice John Paul Stevens argues persuasively, the amendment should not block the ability of society to keep itself safe through gun control legislation. That was never its intent. This amendment was about militias in the 1790s, and the fear of the anti-federalists of a federal army. Since that issue is long moot, we need not be governed in our national life by doctrines on now-extinct militias from the 18th century.
Source
This is an excellent article the explains the reasons the 2nd amendment was created, and how it's been used in the SCOTUS.
The purpose of the Second Amendment was to prevent the new Federal Government established in 1789 from disarming the state militias and replacing them with a Federal standing army. It was a concern that was relevant perhaps for a few years around the birth of the country. It is irrelevant today. Americans do not rely on state militias in 2012 for our freedom from the federal government
Now is the time to establish new gun control laws and perhaps an all out ban on all automatic and semi automatic weapons.
Originally posted by Julie Washington
reply to post by FissionSurplus
Thanks Fission.
I do however, fully support some sort of "automatic" style, military style weapon "gun control".
Originally posted by Julie Washington
"There is thus no constitutional protection whatsoever for the semiautomatic rifle that killed the kids in Newtown."
The Second Amendment is a relic of the founding era more than two centuries ago. Its purpose is long past. As Justice John Paul Stevens argues persuasively, the amendment should not block the ability of society to keep itself safe through gun control legislation. That was never its intent. This amendment was about militias in the 1790s, and the fear of the anti-federalists of a federal army. Since that issue is long moot, we need not be governed in our national life by doctrines on now-extinct militias from the 18th century.
Source
This is an excellent article the explains the reasons the 2nd amendment was created, and how it's been used in the SCOTUS.
The purpose of the Second Amendment was to prevent the new Federal Government established in 1789 from disarming the state militias and replacing them with a Federal standing army. It was a concern that was relevant perhaps for a few years around the birth of the country. It is irrelevant today. Americans do not rely on state militias in 2012 for our freedom from the federal government
Now is the time to establish new gun control laws and perhaps an all out ban on all automatic and semi automatic weapons.