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I find this to not be a coincidence

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posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:12 PM
Part of the new gun control laws will have a heavy emphasis on "Mental health".

The new DSM V has nearly every human emotion. You can be diagnosed as having a "mental illness" just by being a normal person:

The industry of modern psychiatry has officially gone insane. Virtually every emotion experienced by a human being -- sadness, grief, anxiety, frustration, impatience, excitement -- is now being classified as a "mental disorder"

I'm speculating that being diagnosed with anything psyc wise from the new DSM V will put you on the "no buy" list for a gun. The fact that these two things are shaping up together is not a coincidence, I think.

"Suffer" from any normal human emotion and you may be diagnosed. Then "no guns fo you"!

Intresting that "mental health" will be connected to gun buying, and the new DSM V come along at the same time.

edit on 18-12-2012 by davjan4 because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:20 PM
And don't forget, with mandatory Obamacare, if you want to receive certain levels of care, you will most likely be required to have mandatory check ups, mandatory vaccinations and mandatory mental health care.

I would imagine that if you are unemployed and living off of welfare, all of these things will be mandatory if you want "free" healthcare.

oh, i guess i should add: Mandatory

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:28 PM

Originally posted by FinalCountdown
And don't forget, with mandatory Obamacare, if you want to receive certain levels of care, you will most likely be required to have mandatory check ups, mandatory vaccinations and mandatory mental health care.

I would imagine that if you are unemployed and living off of welfare, all of these things will be mandatory if you want "free" healthcare.

oh, i guess i should add: Mandatory

Oh and your free, implanted chip comes with that too.

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:32 PM
reply to post by davjan4

That is an excellent point and I agree that the timing is coordinated. An interesting point is that the new DSM-IV-TR will include "disorders" due to general medical conditions. This means if you break a leg they will not only treat you for the injury but also for the "sadness" caused by it and possibly the "itchiness" of healing. I believe if you are on any psychiatric drugs you will be unable to purchase or own a firearm and they intend to drug you for everything possible.

edit on 18-12-2012 by ccross because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:39 PM
reply to post by davjan4

Did you know that if you have ever been put into a mental hospital, drug rehab, or have AIDS- you are put into a data base with The Department of Health and Human Services for LIFE. And these poor people that are put into these hospital have no rights and are forced to take MEDS that can kill them. They may also be tortured or killed and the hospital covers this up. They make an average of 1000-2000 dollars a day on keeping someone in a mental hospital. Stay may consist of 2 weeks up to a month and the only way out is to go to court.

Throwing someone in a Mental Hospital is not the answer to this current issue! We cannot as Americans start throwing people into Mental Hospitals just because we may think they are so-called crazy or weird. This kind of action could destroy someone for the rest of their lives.

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:44 PM
reply to post by Bilk22

RFID on page 1000 in new health care bill- implemented 2014- right hand or shoulder?? They are going to sale it as a wonderful quick way to access medical records. Already using Bio-metrics in hospitals and doctors office- palm or finger prints attached to medical record.

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 09:55 PM
yes its a coordinated effort to get everyone!Just wait.You'll all be on meds or locked away in a fema camp and there's nothing you can do about it!

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 11:03 PM
reply to post by davjan4

lol it's a deeper rabbit hole than just that

many of the physical neurological and behavioral effects of occult/spiritual work have a mental disorder "analogue"
conveniently in place already.

ever noticed how when somebody here who's been practicing meditation, kundalini, 3rd eye, or ascension work starts experiencing the effects for which all manner of occult/esoteric works or someone further along have an explanation for, btw, as these phenomena/effects have a very large corpus of documentation.

somebody will promptly come along and post links "proving" it's a mental disorder, attempt to convince the poster that he/she is crazy [and continuously and repetitively hammer away with that claim], and insist the poster get help, to the point of disruption or attempt to goad poster to anger, followed up by "nyah, nyah, you cant be very enlightened, bla, bla, bla...

related info into what a big crock of isht the DSM really is

the DSM also known as The Big Book of Mental Illness is a tool of political and social control. it's definitions always change to suit the political tides.


Is Schizophrenia Really a Black Disease?

Who decides what "insane" means? This was the major question of Ken Kesey's countercultural classic "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," which illustrated how mental illness could be deployed by the establishment to crush the individual. But a recent book by University of Michigan psychiatry professor Jonathan Metzl suggests that Kesey's novel might not have been far from non-fiction. In "The Protest Psychosis: How Schizophrenia Became a Black Disease", Metzl documents the shifting interpretations of schizophrenia through the 20th century, tracing its evolution from a "white middle-class woman's disease" to an "African-American man's disease." Specifically, with the political upheaval of the civil rights movement, popular culture began to associate angry black men with schizophrenia, which in turn influenced the way doctors interpreted and diagnosed the illness.
"In particularly the early 1920s, 1930s, 1940s when the idea of schizophrenia itself was first coming to the United States from Europe there was a general assumption that persons who suffered from schizophrenia were either shy or calm or they were geniuses," Metzl says. "It was often represented as an illness that afflicted white novelists or poets and as I say, these were very often in popular and psychiatric representation assumed to be white people." But during the massive societal upheavals in the middle of century, ideas of sanity and insanity took on new meaning. "All of a sudden in the 1960s, American culture, newspapers, magazines, movies start to represent angry African-American men as in part being inflicted with a new form of this particular illness," and this change in popular perception of the disease directly influenced the clinical definition of it, Metzl argues. "All of a sudden in 1968, the second version of the Diagnostic Manual comes out and there is new language that says 'aggression, hostility, projection.'" The image of a schizophrenic person was all of a sudden more violent and unstable than the schizophrenic of 20 years before.

The practical consequences of this popular-cum-clinical shift in perception was that in the 1960s far more African-American men were institutionalized in psychiatric wards with schizophrenia. "Some had committed crimes, some had participated in civil rights protests, some had been participants in urban riots at the time. They all passed through various forms of the penal system and ended up diagnosed with schizophrenia and locked in the psychiatric wards," says Metzl. But were these men really schizophrenic? Or were they victims of shifting clinical definitions of disease, one that was prone to metaphoric interpretation?

How Schizophrenia Became a "Black Disease"
edit on 18-12-2012 by DerepentLEstranger because: edit

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 11:07 PM
Step by step. Slowly but surely we are being conditioned. For what? I don't know. I do know the signs are there for anyone to see with their own two eyes.

This is just the next cog in the machine we as humanity has come to be.

posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 11:14 PM

This is fact: There are no genetic tests, no brain scans, blood tests, chemical imbalance tests or X-rays that can scientifically/medically prove that any psychiatric disorder is a medical condition. Whereas real diseases are discovered in labs, psychiatric disorders are invented by committee and voted into existence.


posted on Dec, 18 2012 @ 11:18 PM
And this:

The DSM—New psychiatry manual adds to the oversupply of invented victims

posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:30 AM
reply to post by davjan4

I've been diagnosed with Adult ADHD, and Mania. Basically I'm hyper, and unnaturally happy/excited at times. Guess I'll never own a gun.

posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 10:47 AM
i consider myself to be well grounded, open minded, fairly perseptive and intelligent.

that's considered a mental illness by contemporary standards.

posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 12:18 PM
reply to post by tinhattribunal

Oh, man. I'm sorry to inform you but you currently qualify for the title Bat# crazy. Sensible? Is that like, having super feelings or something? I've never heard of this word(sarcasm).

posted on Dec, 20 2012 @ 01:43 AM
reply to post by davjan4

I said basically the same thing in another thread! Great minds?

Well, sure, they want to make any and every excuse to prevent people from owning guns. The more excuses they can invent, the fewer guns in the hands of the people. Eventually, you have a much smaller armed populace, and it's easier to disarm them for your hostile takeover. That is, of course, the plan, as it's been for every other dictator in modern history.

posted on Dec, 20 2012 @ 01:54 AM
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

A much deeper rabbit hole, indeed! It's no accident that spiritual problems are called "mental conditions" these days. What simpler way to make people ignore the very real spiritual matters that affect us all? Your daughter talks to angels? She must be crazy; medicate! Your son is active, and prefers playing to sitting at a desk? He must have ADHD; medicate! Your wife feels a bit down because her dad died, her best friend moved out of town, her car broke down, and you can't afford to repair it? She must be depressed; medicate! You feel a little insecure in social situations? You must have a disorder; medicate! A pill for this, a pill for that, a pill, and a diagnosis, for everything. The shrinks get rich, the drug companies get rich, and the subjects, er, patients, er, people get medicated with who knows what causing who knows what outcome! Meanwhile, the shifty evil creeps running the show play more head games, screw up more lives, and take greater control of their puppets in the various governments.

posted on Dec, 23 2012 @ 01:02 AM
This may be irrelevent, but I have heard psychiatry and psychology profiling is bunk science....same as a lie detector test. Does either of those two have any basis in science?

Like...if I have a heart attack, I get seen by a specialist. This specialist operates and then gives me medications to heal me and for pain. These meds always work...its science. This specialist will do this same procedure hundreds of times giving mostly the same meds...and it works for almost all.

However...if I am feeling depressed and go to a mental health professional its completely different. (Wont derail the thread with personal nonsense, but I know of what I speak as to what follows.)

They will ask some questions and then prescribe me a "catch all drug". I will take said drug for a month, then report if I feel better. If not, its a dose adjustment, or a switch. This keeps going, sometimes for years, until something magical happens, the drug makes me commit suicide, or I just quit trying out of frustration.

How is it a profession could be given the power to take a right when it has yet to actually cure anything? They make up new psychosis' weekly and pharma will pump out a new drug, full of side effects which make depression a welcome relief....and cure nothing.

Scary thought that basically, my neighbor, who works for the DoH in my county, can strip me of anything.

Its their world folks....we just live in it.

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