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reply posted on 3-3-2013 @ 03:24 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by Pervius



Radar works by "seeing" the energy returned to it. Satellites can't see absorbed energy, and neither can a radar antenna. If there's no energy returned, there's no radar signature. Stealth is multifrequency now, and works on many levels. Stealth is far from dead.



reply posted on 11-3-2013 @ 04:24 PM by Zaphod58
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This is a pretty interesting article on Flight, about the 53rd TEG out of Nellis (which oversees units at Eglin and Edwards as well). They are getting ready for operational testing on the F-35s.

www.flightglobal.com...


reply posted on 11-3-2013 @ 10:56 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by allenidaho



The F-35 is scheduled for IOC some time around 2018 at this rate. There is talk that they will deploy them, and then do IOC which is unheard of. That's if they can get everything under control which right now is not looking good.


reply posted on 12-3-2013 @ 11:42 AM by Zaphod58
reply to post by spy66



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There you go.

One of the problems cited was the head rest size. It's larger than other aircraft, but the theory is that once they get the helmet working (which currently is a big if), then the helmet will display all the information from the sensors on the face shield. When they look behind them, they will see "through" the head rest, and see what's behind them. The problem comes in when you realize the helmet is currently a giant steaming pile of crap laying in a field.
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reply posted on 17-3-2013 @ 05:42 AM by korathin
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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post by surfin4it


That had better be sub-orbital at that price and I'm NOT kidding. It better be at that, just for starters.

I don't know what they figure makes an airplane worth 100 million dollars but this taxpayer says nothing designed to do battle...and as part of that, perhaps be LOST in battle....should cost anything even remotely close to that unless it's capabilities FAR FAR exceed what the public knows about.

This cost garbage has gotten so far beyond logical, people don't even question it anymore. It's not even a question to look at the physical thing and ask what could possibly be within that aircraft worth THAT much to produce? Ummm... Logic test fail in my mind...


From what I heard the F-35 is inferior to the F-22

www.abc.net.au...
www.military.com...

The truth is, the Military industrial complex is producing junk planes(F-35), so the West doesn't get too far ahead of everyone else.


reply posted on 17-3-2013 @ 06:30 AM by justwokeup
reply to post by korathin



Comparing the F-22 and F-35 is pointless as it was never intended to be better. The two aircraft are in a different category altogether.

As originally envisaged think F-15 vs a F-16 an an analogy for F-22 vs F-35. The airframe performance of the F-22 is in a different league to the F-35, it was designed to be.

Its complicated by a number of factors. The F-35 is a more modern design and as such will have a more modern avionics fit at entry to service (one example is F-35 has a HMD while the F-22 has a fixed HUD). F-22 block upgrades will rectify this.

The problem with F-35 is that it was sold as all things to all people (stealth, STOVL, highly manoeuvrable, cheap as an F-16). Whats come out of it is an expensive jack of all trades and master of none.

This isn't any fiendish master plan its just the DoD and foreign MoDs believing a fanciful sales pitch and now being too heavily invested to have a workable plan B.



reply posted on 17-4-2013 @ 08:38 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by allenidaho



The HMSS that the Typhoon uses is similar to having a HUD right in front of the pilots face (slightly simplified explanation), and allows targeting at high off boresight (HOBS).

The F-35 helmet on the other hand, is an augmented reality system. It displays 360 degrees around the aircraft, taking data from all the sensors mounted on the aircraft. It's a much more data heavy system than the standard helmet cueing system, so it would be harder to modify a standard helmet to work with the system.
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