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(1) : an organized body of believers in a particular locality
ATS is NOT a congregation for your religion OR lack thereof. It is a discussion-based forum
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by mr10k
There is a religious and creationism sub forum here for them to discuss anything they want about religion and you have no say so about it.
ATS is NOT a congregation for your religion OR lack thereof. It is a discussion-based forum
In conclusion, all I'm trying to say is that there is a difference in a discussion, and a share-fest. If you explicitly state at the foot of your OP that: "What do you guys think" or "Discuss", then it is a discussion and you should be expecting people with differing views and be prepared to challenge them, not shoot them down at whatever the cost, and the same goes for whatever religion you belong to (or don't).
What do you guys think about the state of the forums currently. It feels like Summer break is longer than it should be.
Post what you will. But know that it has been around for 2000 years so your arguments either pro or con will likely not make anymore dent that spitting in the ocean.
I tend to ignore all threads from the people who believe to the people that don't,I see no point in arguing about something that is nobody elses business but my own.
Originally posted by mr10k
Now, before I start, let me just say that that 'one' thread is one of my biggest peeves: Intolerance. It made me mad, something that has only happened one other time anytime I was browsing ATS. That being said, I am mournfully disheartened by the fact that someone on this site would have that breed of opinion.
Originally posted by Dustytoad
Originally posted by mr10k
Now, before I start, let me just say that that 'one' thread is one of my biggest peeves: Intolerance. It made me mad, something that has only happened one other time anytime I was browsing ATS. That being said, I am mournfully disheartened by the fact that someone on this site would have that breed of opinion.
You can't tolerate intolerant posts? Not very tolerant of you..
As much as someone can respond in a negative manner (meaning against op) the op can choose how he/she responds to that.. No one can be forced to respond to naysayers if that's not what they want to do..
When you are speaking to people with strong beliefs maybe you should back off already knowing they will not take kindly to a negative view on their beliefs.. People are Sick of people who come into topics that are obviously not to their liking just so they can say, nope that's not right, you are wrong op.. This is pointless, and the frustration that comes from that breeds the response you get... These responses are better suited to topics that are not belief based. You cannot prove positive or negative what you do not know, and if most posters understood this KEY issue then they wouldn't feel the need to click on obviously religious topics..
Just because you don't understand something... ONLY means you don't understand it, nothing more..
Originally posted by GARN40ish
A great amount of people are skeptical on the subject, for good reason. You cant blame these people! Its simply something they are not used to, familiar with, or practiced or studied in their past.
You are not the teacher, you are not the moderator, you are not the cop... It's not your job to decide what is right and wrong, this is up to public perception.. Obviously narrow minded posts that KNOW things on either side look dumb to me.
Grow up.
Originally posted by mr10k
And I am glad that narrow minded posts look dumb to you, but I don't care because I very rarely narrow-minded posts that KNOW things. I see open-minded posts that know things, and closed minded posts that CLAIM to know things, but not what you describe.
Grow up.
How mature of you, kind sir.
Originally posted by Dustytoad
Open minded posts don't know anything. You are the one misunderstanding terms based on your point of view. true open mindedness changes perspective often and never sits for too long.. This would limit the view, thus narrowing it, thus narrowing the mind, thus narrow minded posts.. This was NOT directed at you, but at posters that you are defending.. Skepticism is not narrow mindedness, I was calling both sides that know narrow, because they have only one path one view, it's narrow...
Skepticism is not narrow mindedness, I was calling both sides that know narrow, because they have only one path one view, it's narrow...
Originally posted by Dustytoad
reply to post by mr10k
You misunderstand again... I am not saying what you said..
I am saying true open minded posts Know that they don't Know... I am not equating open mindedness to beliefs.. This is what you think of it.. I am not equating skeptics to people who don't believe magical things without proof I call skeptics people who don't believe ANYTHING without proof..
Open mindedness changes views often and is open to ANY ideas mainstream or not.
Yes true open mindedness changes the mind...
Skepticism brings about open mindedness in other people...
You are also implying, from your post, that no one can truly know anything about something...
Open mindedness changes views often and is open to ANY ideas mainstream or not.
open-mindedness norms relate to the way in which people approach the views and knowledge of others, and "incorporate the beliefs that others should be free to express their views and that the value of others’ knowledge should be recognised."
Originally posted by Frogs
reply to post by mr10k
Heh - I actually thought about making a similar thread earlier today when reading the latest religion threads.
Mine was going to be something like this...
Ya know, Christianity has been around for about 2000 years now. During that time it has been examined, discussed and dissected by some of the greatest minds of the ages.
So given that fact, it is highly unlikely that anyone here is going to come up with some shocking new argument that will convince every believer they are believing a lie. Likewise, it is equally unlikely that anyone here will receive a divine revelation that will convert the masses of unbelievers.
Post what you will. But know that it has been around for 2000 years so your arguments either pro or con will likely not make any more dent than spitting in the ocean would.
Some people will continue to believe and some will not to believe regardless of your efforts - deal with it, learn to live with it and try not to poke the other side with a pointy stick too often and the world will be a better place.