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Charles, you do write Eloquently, but that doesnt make your Opinions your pushing Facts.
Originally posted by charles1952
Israel - Islam? Israel is as fearful as a country can be, they certainly don't envy the Muslim world, but there is the hate that comes from constant threats.
9/11? A combination of a hatred for Bush, a hatred for the Israelis, even a hatred for America.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Charles, you do write Eloquently, but that doesnt make your Opinions your pushing Facts.
You slide in the Hatred towards Israel as something the Muslims did... Wrong there Bucko, its all on Israel.
As for the 911 line of Bull you wrote, again... wrong.
ATruther such as myself will continue to Argue because of a Love for the US, you can bend over and Believe Physics took the day off on 911, I am not that Naive.
I thought hatred, envy, and fear explained a lot of what was going on in ATS and in society in general.
I then tried to give some examples of how my theory might work out. I'm hoping ATSers can improve my theory by adding different drives, or examples.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
deoxy.org...
Intimidators steal energy from others by threat.
Interrogators steal it by judging and questioning.
Aloof people attract attention (and energy) to themselves by playing coy.
Poor me's make us feel guilty and responsible for them.
I thought there was a case to be made for hatred, because that seemed to be a strong basis for the Muslim approach to Israel, or for tearing down Buddhist shrines and statues. Or even for some of the comments made about, Romney, Palin, Beck, FOX news, etc.
Envy stuck it's nose up with all of the "Eat the Rich," "Out of touch 1%ers," and "Make them pay their fair share."
Not to mention, people getting robbed for their tennis shoes.
Some of us get a little pissy when the finger pointing is all in one general direction
You slide in the Hatred towards Israel as something the Muslims did... Wrong there Bucko, its all on Israel.
reply to post by charles1952
If attaining civility on ATS is difficult, what plan could possibly save the country? Are we forced to run from one website to another, one country to another, hoping to find refuge? Forgive the melodrama, I am dark today, but is the whole world sinking?
think most conspiracies, President Obama, and much if not most of ATS posts and threads come from three words: HATE, ENVY, and FEAR.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Spiramirabilis
Some of us get a little pissy when the finger pointing is all in one general direction
There it is, you feel threatened.
I really appreciate your post, the one including Lady Liberty. It gave me one of those Doh! moments. Instead of trying to point out the speck in another's eye, maybe I should work on the plank in my own.
...it's too easy to judge people from my own perspective and expect them to behave as I would. I still believe that there are boundaries that shouldn't be crossed -- name calling, personal attacks, etc. If those simple boundaries can't be kept, what can be kept?...
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Pride and love, ever human emotion can be selfish and ever human emotion is for survival.
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Once we understand this we might get somewhere.edit on 093131p://bWednesday2012 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)