The 4 elements - Fire, Water, Air, Earth (Which is the most powerful in your opinion? Which came fir, page 1

reply to post by Ghost375

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Water is H2O, O for OXYGEN so of course water needs air,
Maybe, you are right though about the soil/land not needing air, but space would be considered air (atmosphere) so earth still needs to be in outer space...

Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Ghost375

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Water is H2O, O for OXYGEN so of course water needs air,
Maybe, you are right though about the soil/land not needing air, but space would be considered air (atmosphere) so earth still needs to be in outer space...

Except air isn't the same as Oxygen. so no, water doesn't need air.

and space isn't in the picture. plus space is a vacuum. There's no air up there.

reply to post by Ghost375

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I know there is no air in space...
Air is being defined as an "element" - it is more abstract (spirit, atmosphere, or space)...

reply to post by DeadSeraph

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Yes, the element of spiritual energy; something we know very little about.

reply to post by InTheLight

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I believe it is referred to as Aether; and my vote is Air/Aether. I'm prejudice with being a Gemini.

The tetrahedron, octahedron, cube & icosahedron (first four Platonic solids) were regarded by the ancient Greeks as the shapes of the particles of the elements Fire, Air, Earth & Water. They have been shown by a theoretical physicist to embody various numbers characterising the 3-dimensional structure of the E8xE8' heterotic superstring, whilst their faces embody the dimension 248 of E8. Also, he has proved that the five Platonic solids embody the dimension 496 of E8xE8'. For details, see:
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(You may need to study some of the earlier sections in order to understand the mathematics.)
The Element Aether represented by the dodecahedron comes first. This regular polyhedron has been shown mathematically to map all levels of reality. Details may be found at the website. The four solids represent the four states of matter: solid, liquid, gaseous and radiant (electromagnetic) energy found in the physical universe described by the mathematics of E8', whilst the dodecahedron relates to the etheric state of matter, which in superstring theory is predicted to be invisible shadow matter described by the second Lie group E8'. The ancient intuition that the first four Platonic solids had a connection with the physics of the cosmos was correct. What was wrong was the belief that their shapes were the shapes of the particles of the Elements. Instead, the first four Platonic solids embody the Lie group mathematics of the unified force between superstrings, as well as their 3-dimensional form, as has now been proved. We can now see that they shapes are not only found in the forms of many chemical molecules, viruses, etc, but are also profoundly connected to the very forces operating between superstrings and to their 3-dimensional structure.

reply to post by jiggerj

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Originally posted by jiggerj

You're just having some fun, right? You know that there are 118 elements, and none of them are earth, air, fire and water?

That's according to science. They happen to label things differently, but even in that table things can be grouped to the 4 elements.

Oxygen would be the element of air (and many other "particles" which makes up air).

Different metals would be "Earth"

Chemical elements - that which is strongly and easily flammable would be fire

Hydrogen and the other chemicals which easily forms "wetness" would be water...

Anyway, this is just a guess of how it can all fit.

My point was that science is defining the elements in a different way (particles/molecules) then the FOUR elements of the whole bigger picture.

reply to post by D1ss1dent

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That seems to make sense.

Air (Space), Fire (Light, Stars, Energy), water (Hydrogen, Liquids), and then earth (matter, dust, land)...

I think abiogensis of universe from scientists say this too, right?

reply to post by arpgme

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That is possible... If it's the case, I raise my hat to the ancients.

reply to post by arpgme

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Looking at the literal elements you mention? I don't know. Looking at what they represent? They are most powerful in balance.

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