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reply posted on 13-12-2012 @ 05:32 PM by Anunaki10
Originally posted by GaryN
I didn't see this mentioned before on ATS, apologies if it's a repeat. Pretty tough to tell nowadays what's fake or not, but thought it interesting:
Apollo 16 stagehand blooper?
www.youtube.com...

Yes it's interesting www.godlikeproductions.com... Stagehand Roy Disney in The Nevada Fake Moon Bay? Here's proof they went to the Moon www.conspiracyclinic.com...

If the Moon landings really were faked then at least most of the astronauts would already have come forward and expose NASA as liars. There will always be whistleblowers to come forward, but not one single astronaut have ever come forward to expose NASA as a fraud. And not only that. The russians had many KGB spies all over the United States, and they monitored the Americans, and the Russians would have been the first to expose NASA as liars if the Moon landings really were hoax.

And would astronauts really want to play in a hoax game? Really? The astronauts would feel they have been cheated on and feel irritated at NASA, and expose NASA as liars in press conferences all over the world and say to the crowd >>Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, we have not been on the Moon, the NASA organisation is the biggest lie ever made, we feel we have been cheated on by NASA<<.
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reply posted on 15-12-2012 @ 01:11 AM by Anunaki10
Originally posted by GaryN
I didn't see this mentioned before on ATS, apologies if it's a repeat. Pretty tough to tell nowadays what's fake or not, but thought it interesting:
Apollo 16 stagehand blooper?
www.youtube.com...

Like i said, i think there would be astronauts to come forward and expose NASA as liars if the Moon landings were hoax, and i also think that the KGB spies would inform Kremlin about "Moon landing hoax" and then the russians would also expose NASA as liars too.

But, anyway, that clip you posted is however interesting You don't have to apalogize.

On Page 30 "Faked Moon - Amazing documentary" www.abovetopsecret.com... i posted this
'Denver22' pointed out that the text from that Youtube clip says
Uploaded by rosserluke on Mar 11, 2007 Intended as a joke! By putting a funny side on the seriousness of the moon landing ......If you believe Apollo was a fake, can use this as a sample of what you think could have been done. If you're an Apollo believer, this video only serves to demonstrate no such actual evidence exists............................Reachd 1million views on 17/10/2008--22:42(GMT)

So question is, is that clip you posted intended as a joke, and is that clip i posted intended as a joke? Or are these clips really filmed in a "studio" in a hangar in a US military base somewhere in the United States, before the real Apollo Moon missions? Good question...

These clips are funny anyway, don't you think? Yeah, "studio people" revealing themselves on these Moon landing clips, both video clips, the one posted by me, and the other one posted by you!
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reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 02:18 AM by Eurofile007
Originally posted by jtap66
The fact that people still believe in this moon hoax stuff just baffles me.

Hasn't all this crap been debunked enough?


No it hasn't. The debunkers just make up false explanations. For example, they claim that astronauts are lit up in shadows because the moon's surface reflects light up to illuminate them. But this cannot be true for several reasons:

1) The moon's average albedo (luminosity) is only between 7 - 12 percent, which is comparable to that of asphalt (used in cement freeways) on Earth. Thus it could not illuminate someone standing in a shadow from the ground up like a light bulb would.

See the albedo of various types of cement pavements here:
www.pavement.com...

Documented info on the moon’s average 7 - 12 percent albedo:
en.wikipedia.org...
www.universetoday.com...

This Universe Today article above even acknowledges that the moon’s surface is not very bright.

“So, how does the Moon albedo compare to other objects in the Solar System? As bright as the Moon looks from our perspective here on Earth, the Moon’s albedo is actually pretty low. The object with the highest albedo in the Solar System is Saturn’s moon Enceladus, which has an albedo of 0.99, which means that it’s covered with very reflective snow and ice. The Moon is much more similar to a very dark object, like an asteroid. The darkest asteroids in the Solar System have an albedo of 0.06. That’s pretty close to 0.”


2) If the lunar surface were bright enough to light up someone standing in shadows, it would be glaringly bright like snow under sunlight (which is why skiers wear sunshades) or at least somewhat bright and glowing. But as we can see in the Apollo photos and videos, it was not. Instead, the lunar surface appeared rather dark and grayish. It did not glow at all.

3) In the Apollo videos, the astronauts descending the ladder are not lit up in the shade.

Therefore, this explanation by Apollo defenders does not hold water and is a false explanation. Moon hoax investigator and filmmaker Jarrah White exposed the fraudulent experiments conducted by the Mythbusters on this issue, which you can see on YouTube by doing a search for “Moonfaker mythbusters” and “Moonfaker Reflect on this”. Additionally, two Russian scientists also exposed the Mythbusters fraud, and ran tests proving that the photos of well lit astronauts standing in the shadows could not have been due to the albedo of the lunar surface. See their report here: www.aulis.com...
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reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 02:25 AM by Eurofile007
Originally posted by Anunaki10
Originally posted by GaryN
I didn't see this mentioned before on ATS, apologies if it's a repeat. Pretty tough to tell nowadays what's fake or not, but thought it interesting:
Apollo 16 stagehand blooper?
www.youtube.com...

Yes it's interesting www.godlikeproductions.com... Stagehand Roy Disney in The Nevada Fake Moon Bay? Here's proof they went to the Moon www.conspiracyclinic.com...

If the Moon landings really were faked then at least most of the astronauts would already have come forward and expose NASA as liars. There will always be whistleblowers to come forward, but not one single astronaut have ever come forward to expose NASA as a fraud. And not only that. The russians had many KGB spies all over the United States, and they monitored the Americans, and the Russians would have been the first to expose NASA as liars if the Moon landings really were hoax.

And would astronauts really want to play in a hoax game? Really? The astronauts would feel they have been cheated on and feel irritated at NASA, and expose NASA as liars in press conferences all over the world and say to the crowd >>Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, we have not been on the Moon, the NASA organisation is the biggest lie ever made, we feel we have been cheated on by NASA<<.
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If their lives were threatened, they would not come forward, especially if their families were threatened too. These astronauts were screened for their ability to keep secrets?

Did you know that Bart Sibrel saw the NASA report on the Apollo One fire and said that it stated that cyanide capsules were dropped into the command module? See this interview where he says that:

radiofetzer.blogspot.com...

Also, whistleblowers tend to get no attention in the mainstream media. There are tons of whistleblowers in the JFK assassination for instance. But none of them got covered in the controlled major media, only in the alternative media.

Here is a list of whistleblowers in the JFK assassination. You can Google them all and see their testimony.

E Howard Hunt, CIA operative for Nixon and Watergate conspirator
Gerald Ford, former US President and Warren Commission member
Colonel E. Fletcher Prouty, Chief of Special Operations
Madeleine Duncan Brown, mistress of LBJ
Barr McClellan, attorney for LBJ
Billie Sol Estes, legendary Texas wheeler dealer
Mob confessions
Joseph Milteer tapes
Judyth Vary Baker, girlfriend of Lee Oswald


reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 02:27 AM by Eurofile007
Originally posted by mcx1942
reply to
post by JohnPhoenix



Ah, I think I see what the OP is trying to convey.

The shadow on it does give it the appearance of a cloth over dirt but I think this is just an optical illusion.

edit on 11/27/2012 by mcx1942 because: clarity


Why is it an optical illusion? Optical illusions are usually carefully designed, not random or accidental.

You can see the line between the cloth layer and the dirt, suggesting that the layer was placed OVER the dirt. You can even see slight creases in it. What could be more obvious than that? Look at it again.


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