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Originally posted by choos
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
NASA didn't start tracking, or lets say were not able to track solar flares until 1972, and that technology was improved in 1977, so they wouldn't even know what they are going into, which would be the FIRST priority, ahh but why bother, you guys enjoy your Hollywood story, done with this post. peace.
for real??? who told you this?
look up SPAN (heres a hint: SOLAR PARTICLE ALERT NETWORK)
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
reply to post by Anonbeleiver77
I am yet to read anything in this post as to how the hoax supporters think that all the people who worked on the missions where kept quite? Over half a million people worked on the Apollo missions.
Please explain your theory's on how all the people involved where kept quite for the rest of their days so much do that NOT ONE has ever come forward or even intimated a hoax.
Over 500,000 people....
The obvious answer to your question is this : The 500,000 people you speak of didn't go into space.
Unfortunately you have latched onto this figure of "500,000 people" and you haven't presented a SINGLE SOURCE for that figure.
And your theory's on where the rockets went if not the moon?
The rockets were lifted into low earth orbit. That much is obvious, thousands of eye witnesses. But the Apollo telemetry tapes would show the ships stayed in Low Earth Orbit. So it was decided (probably by Nixon) the 700+ boxes of tapes, encompassing all manned Apollo missions, were "lost" (hi-jacked by Nixon's Plumbers) during a routine transfer between the National Archives and Goddard Space Flight Center.
FYI- I don't mean to speak for all the Apollo skeptics. There are so many different angles to the Apollo Hoax Hologram, Nixon's Apollo, the angle that I think is the best one, for me.
Go ahead and ask more questions. The Apollo skeptics will help you understand the truth.
Originally posted by ppk55
For instance, if we really did land men on the moon. Wouldn't there be a massive monument somewhere recognizing this incredible feat? Wouldn't it at least be on the scale of the Washington monument?
Yet, there is nothing.
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
Even the recent probes sent into Van Allen Belt discovered new types of radiation....
Originally posted by mrkeen
reply to post by ppk55
There is also such thing as experiencing the unexpected. Human errors and unpredicted moments usually lead to important discoveries. When you first step onto the soil of another planet or moon, so much should be different, you must be overwhelmed with that. All physical devices should work differently, every aspect of the mission should give valuable information. In no event it can be predicted and calculated beforehand. The manned Moon mission should've provided a lot of new discoveries and surprises. But seemingly it went so smooth that it was almost boring, "Okay, we are on the Moon. Nothing interesting here. We are leaving". Is it what you expect from a mission like that?edit on 30-4-2013 by mrkeen because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Anonbeleiver77
wiki.answers.com...
How many people were involved behind the scenes in the Apollo 11 project?
when you consider not only NASA, but all the different companies and agencies involved in the design, manufacture and testing of every component of the hardware and software involved, the number would have to run into the thousands, if not tens of thousands. Source Your Source Link
Originally posted by ppk55
It's almost as if on the one hand everyone wants the myth to be fully accepted, but when you look a little deeper, you find none of the facts back it up. It's almost as if on the one hand we say 'wow .. we did it' but on the other 'just don't look too deep'.
At that point I got a call one day from a guy with a heavy German accent, that said, "They tell me you know something about cameras that fly high."
I said, "Well, up to 70,000 feet."
He says, "Do you think one could work at half a million feet?"
I says, "Well, that would be in space."
And Dr. [Wernher] von Braun says, "Well, let's give it a try. Come to Alabama. I want to talk to you." Source www.jsc.nasa.gov...
But I guess it was ten years before—every time I roll that roll, I'm scratching my head. And we never mentioned it to anybody, you know, at that point, that this thing was in there, and nobody in the outside world caught it at that point. It was sort of like on Apollo 11, nobody wondered why we never released any pictures of Neil Armstrong on the Moon. Because there weren't any. But we were told, "Don't mention it." And nobody in the news media picked this up. .I can't figure that out to save my life, why every picture you released was Buzz Aldrin, because Buzz was mad at Neil, didn't take his picture. Got hundreds of the other eleven guys walked on the Moon, none of number one. Even PAO [Public Affairs Office] for a while thought of, "Why don't we say this picture by the flag is Armstrong? How do you know? You can't see his face or anything."
I said, "Well, there's some nine-year-old kid out there who's a space groupie and he knows every aperture and wire and seam in a spacesuit. The day after you publish it, the New York Times is going to have a letter from a nine-year-old kid saying, 'No, you're wrong. That's Buzz Aldrin.'"
"Well, don't mention it." So that's the way that sort of worked for years. Nobody brought that idea up. A lot of things weren't mentioned and got away with from that standpoint.
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
Originally posted by Anonbeleiver77
wiki.answers.com...
You earlier claimed "500,000" without a source. Now you posted a source that indicates, what?
How many people were involved behind the scenes in the Apollo 11 project?
when you consider not only NASA, but all the different companies and agencies involved in the design, manufacture and testing of every component of the hardware and software involved, the number would have to run into the thousands, if not tens of thousands. Source Your Source Link
wiki.answers is not a good way to convince anyone that your data are credible. Try working on some better source, more credible, source material. I have seen the "400,000" figure sourced (many times, in other threads) but you've gone and upped it by 100,000. That's a 20% margin for error!
If we applied your 20% margin of error to Saturn V launch vehicles... well... ka-boom!
It would be nice if you read my full post before commenting...
As I said even if it was half or a quarter that amount of people who worked on it my original premise still stands.That approximate amount has been staged on many documentarys and in many books also.
And you still havnt made any comment at all on the rest of the world tracking the missions..we don't exist? Or are that backward we don't understand the technology?
The rockets did not just sit in orbit that's a fact so where did they go if not the moon?
Some kind of solid hologram that shows up on tracking huh?
That's possible and going to the moons not?
The more you delve into it the more ridiculous the idea of a hoax gets.
Originally posted by ppk55
Sometimes you just have to wonder about things.
For instance, if we really did land men on the moon. Wouldn't there be a massive monument somewhere recognizing this incredible feat? Wouldn't it at least be on the scale of the Washington monument?. . .
. . wouldn't there be the most accessible, most comprehensive, easily searched, incredibly indexed, highly respected one stop online library in the world. After all wouldn't we all be so proud of what mankind had accomplished that such a research facility would exist?
Yet, there is nothing like this.
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
reply to post by Anonbeleiver77
It would be nice if you read my full post before commenting...
As I said even if it was half or a quarter that amount of people who worked on it my original premise still stands.That approximate amount has been staged on many documentarys and in many books also.
And you still havnt made any comment at all on the rest of the world tracking the missions..we don't exist? Or are that backward we don't understand the technology?
The rockets did not just sit in orbit that's a fact so where did they go if not the moon?
Some kind of solid hologram that shows up on tracking huh?
That's possible and going to the moons not?
The more you delve into it the more ridiculous the idea of a hoax gets.
No, your original premise "500,000" doesn't stand. It was found to be a fallacy. Your source was debunked.
Anyway... I had no way of knowing that you were an Aussie and I never made those remarks against Aussies.
Hey... wait a minute!
... if you Aussies are so smart with the tracking data how did you lose the Apollo 11 Eagle and Apollo 16 Orion (lunar ascent) modules? Do you adopt the tricky history about it... or are you like me? Aren't you wondering why and how NASA/Bellcomm/CIA could lose two lunar modules?
It's like these modules just disappeared and NASA has no explanation. Only excuses. Never A Straight Answer.
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
reply to post by Anonbeleiver77
It would be nice if you read my full post before commenting...
As I said even if it was half or a quarter that amount of people who worked on it my original premise still stands.That approximate amount has been staged on many documentarys and in many books also.
And you still havnt made any comment at all on the rest of the world tracking the missions..we don't exist? Or are that backward we don't understand the technology?
The rockets did not just sit in orbit that's a fact so where did they go if not the moon?
Some kind of solid hologram that shows up on tracking huh?
That's possible and going to the moons not?
The more you delve into it the more ridiculous the idea of a hoax gets.
No, your original premise "500,000" doesn't stand. It was found to be a fallacy. Your source was debunked.
Anyway... I had no way of knowing that you were an Aussie and I never made those remarks against Aussies.
Hey... wait a minute!
... if you Aussies are so smart with the tracking data how did you lose the Apollo 11 Eagle and Apollo 16 Orion (lunar ascent) modules? Do you adopt the tricky history about it... or are you like me? Aren't you wondering why and how NASA/Bellcomm/CIA could lose two lunar modules?
It's like these modules just disappeared and NASA has no explanation. Only excuses. Never A Straight Answer.
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
Why is the pro-Apollo apparently so uninterested in finding these two missing Apollo modules? Why don't you all find this interesting??
Score 2 points for the Apollo investigators.