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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by turbonium1
Please provide such documentation. But you understand that the interior of the command module was lined with equipment right? Equipment which quite effectively absorbed radiation. The skin was not the only protection.
The Apollo spacecraft were primarily thin aluminum shells. It's a well-documented fact that aluminum is a very poor shield against the radiation within the VA Belts.
I went through six weeks of radiotherapy 26 years ago. On a daily basis I received a hell of a lot more radiation than the Apollo astronauts did.edit on 4/21/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CarbonBase
Aside from the facts, as apparently, none are needed to prove the Apollo missions DID NOT land on the Moon, who or what left all the foot prints and tire tracks on the lunar surface? The images from the LRO were pretty crisp, and well, pretty obvious.
Who is going to 'disclose' the hoax? Someone that went there and checked?
The Saturn V doesn't have enough nuts to put the lunar payload in orbit? Huh?
The flag 'waving' is proof of a hoax? What ?
The technology didn't exist? ???????????? Yeah it did, it wasn't much technology to be sure, but it did. All they needed was a pretty decent calculator, which is basically what they used.
and on, and on, and on. Well, we'll know for sure in our life times. The fact that the stuff is there and visible on the Lunar surface. The foot prints, tire tracks, descent stages, instrumentation packages and it's all visible to the naked eye, might be a clue there. But if it was a hoax, where did all the moon rocks come from? I think you could call that evidence in a way.
Saturn V weighed ONLY 3,000 tons? What does that have to do with anything ?
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
You say they had the technology, alright, they did have the technology to send man past LEO and to a martian rock with absolutely no rescue, but when you talk about mars it's too dangerous, radiation is a problem,
Originally posted by turbonium1
Same reason they didn't go over 40 years ago - a lack of required technology.
Many people say that NASA itself is a waste of taxpayer's money, let alone a specific project.
And public apathy never stopped NASA's Space Shuttles from looping the Earth over and over again, for about 30 years! .
Lack of support didn't stop the Shuttle program, as I said.
NASA can't put astronauts on the moon, that's why only LEO flights are done..
NASA's projects are never 'profitable', except to those involved in the project, like suplliers. The taxpaying public don't profit from it, but they certainly pay for it.
Don't see anything relevant to the issue of aluminum shielding. Can you be more specific?
Originally posted by turbonium1
Another source...
"Clearly, aluminum which was taken as a reasonableshield material a few years ago is now considered a poorcandidate for future spacecraft construction"
webcache.googleusercontent.com...:9OHEEx4jn58J:citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.37.9353%26rep%3Drep1%26type%3D ps+aluminum+is+a+poor+radiation+shield+material+to+hazardous+outside+of+LEO+applications&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca
There's a pdf version of the above soyrce, as well.
The two sources I've posted clearly support my argument. You have not shown any sources to support your case, as yet.
If you can't, then it obviously confirms Apollo was a hoax
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
reply to post by choos
Nobody else can demonstrate a human outside LEO. And until such a demonstration is made all the radiation experts in the world can have nothing to say about it. Period.
Originally posted by mrkeen
It's not so much about the Moon, it's about technology. If NASA had technology to send people to the Moon in the 60s, this tech would show itself today in many places. Where is this tech exactly? Have you heard about a far space station in Lunar orbit? And what about highly protected radiation suits in Fukushima? If astronauts' moon suits were such a good protection, why not use them to inspect damaged nuclear reactors? Also will a NASA expert fly over a damaged nuclear reactor in a copy of the Apollo spaceship? If not, then all these arguments are nothing but a well-dressed fantasy.
A solar flare is an explosion in a solar atmosphere and was originally detected visually in our own sun. Solar flares create massive amounts of radiation across the full electromagnetic spectrum from the longest wavelength, radio waves, to high energy gamma rays (en.wikipedia.org...).
Originally posted by mrkeen
Do you mean that astronauts were sent without any protection whatsoever against possible solar flares? These solar flares seem to be pretty frequent:
edit on 22-4-2013 by mrkeen because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
reply to post by choos
choos, you can quote all the scientific studies but it wont change the fact that only NASA, NASA under RICHARD NIXON, has been able to demonstrate a human being outside LEO.
Nobody else can demonstrate a human outside LEO. And until such a demonstration is made all the radiation experts in the world can have nothing to say about it. Period.
This continuing ignorance on the part of Apollo believers is both unscientific and irrational.