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Originally posted by jude11
Very interesting read so far...Thanks! S&F
The only question that arises is that these massive structures, equipment and rails were no doubt constructed and maintained by the working class. And as such would be very difficult to keep a secret. So why is it we don't know more about such huge undertakings?
A few beers with the boys on a Saturday night and it's all out in the open. And it would take 10's of 1,000's of people to build these things. So how is it kept a secret?
Peace
Originally posted by mcx1942
Thank you for posting this. I find it entirely possible there may be hidden underground networks for transporting "special" people. If I was a shady organization, I would want to conduct my operations and movement below ground as well. I am not surprised celebrities like ole crazy Tom Cruise can ride a special transit system.
Originally posted by AuranVector
S&F for creating a thread about a topic that very much interests me.
Originally posted by darkstar57
If there are secret tunnels and underground bases, there must be corresponding piles of rock on the surface.
Radar surveys of the US can find a 5 inch rise in the South Sisters mountains in Oregon. A 20 foot diameter tunnel 1000 miles long is a column of rock 1000 miles high and 20 feet around... or a spoil pile 20 feet high and a 100 square miles. or such. easily identified.
Show where the mining spoils are on the surface to prove such underground activites might exist.
there must be corresponding piles of rock on the surface.
World's Biggest Rock Crusher The total volume of excavated rock on this project will be over 26 million tons — or the equivalent of 5 Pyramids of Giza. It's the highest-volume tunnel excavation ever. But the best part is, almost none of that rock goes to waste. The GBT's engineers are doing something revolutionary in the tunneling industry — they've built a plant on site that sorts through the aggregate and can actually crush it to the appropriate size so that they can re-use it for concrete mixtures. Over 5 million tons of that very same excavated rock actually ends up back in the tunnel as concrete. And all the rest gets repurposed elsewhere along the Gotthard Pass in the form of dams, support for bridges and even as new islands in the glacier fed lakes.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by gorgon8819
Care to share where you found this info, I am curious if maybe Chicago has one of these secret subway systems.
There is no public info available actually. So I just used Google to track down various hints that there may be secret subways. Im sure Chicago has some interesting underground too.edit on 28-11-2012 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by jude11
Im also surprised by how something like this tunnel from NY to London could have remained unknown to the wider public. I would assume that workers sign confidentiality agreements.
Or compartmentalization of information. As a worker you'd build a small stretch of a larger tunnel and never really question what its for. This would be faciliated by companies such as this: Robbins.
edit on 25-11-2012 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by yankeesfan
Not quite the intricate part of a secret subway system in New York the OP tried to make it out to be.
Originally posted by abeverage
Are there Subways people know little about? Yes military or government or test facilities are they top secret? I doubt it.
The man power needed for any one subway system is where your theory falls apart. Even military owned areas have leaks as AREA 51 can attest.
So how do you suggest they keep all the maintenance done?
Originally posted by wmd_2008
Originally posted by abeverage
Are there Subways people know little about? Yes military or government or test facilities are they top secret? I doubt it.
The man power needed for any one subway system is where your theory falls apart. Even military owned areas have leaks as AREA 51 can attest.
So how do you suggest they keep all the maintenance done?
Most of the links given in the OP were false anyway, why they weren't checked before making the thread I don't know but it seems to be a simple fact on here even when the real truth is known why let it stand in the way of a conspiracy theory!!!
Originally posted by Skyfloating
But wait...there is already a secret tunnel going from New York to London. Its baffling how it could be built while hardly anyone noticed: Secret Tunnel from New York to London
I hope I’m not bursting anyone’s bubble when I reveal that the Telectroscopes (designed by artist and inventor Paul St George) are connected not by a tunnel but by fiber optic cabling, and an HD camera and projector on either end provide live streaming video. But who really cares, you can still look in one end of this device in New York and see out the other in London. You’ll find one end next to the Brooklyn Bridge, and the other across the pond, next to Tower Bridge. Interestingly, the concept for this device has been around for over a century. Read about its origins, and check out a picture from one of the apertures, after the jump.
“The Telectroscope started off as a totally unintentional hoax in the 1870s,” explains St George, who is the leading expert on this forgotten backwater of Victorian technology. “It came about through an error. A French editor misread a report about the invention of a thing called the Electroscope – which is all to do with static electricity – and called it a Telectroscope. He also misinterpreted its purpose.
Originally posted by abeverage
Are there Subways people know little about? Yes military or government or test facilities are they top secret? I doubt it.
The man power needed for any one subway system is where your theory falls apart. Even military owned areas have leaks as AREA 51 can attest.
So how do you suggest they keep all the maintenance done?
The underground base itself has an area of several km² and is connected by 20 km (12 mi)
of underground roads. A 3 km (1.9 mi) long, dangerously narrow road tunnel running some
70 metres (230 ft) under the sea level connects the mainland and Muskö island en.wikipedia.org...