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reply posted on 11-12-2012 @ 11:28 PM by burntheships
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State to State is easy, no problem especially in the East.
Eastern states are small...


reply posted on 13-12-2012 @ 02:22 PM by abeverage
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State to State is easy, no problem especially in the East.
Eastern states are small...


Not out in the west which what those maps show...



reply posted on 13-12-2012 @ 07:18 PM by ProjectJimmy
Absolutely there are secret subways, Moscow and Washington are famous for them. It's an open secret that London is riddled with bunkers left over from the war that are still used by Her Majesty's Government today too. There is also a big question about their existence in Pyongyang and Beijing.

As for New York City, I highly doubt it. It's impossible to keep something like that a secret in that city. There are literally thousands of homeless people in the city that move in and out of the tunnel systems, they would have found it. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is enormous, employs an army of workers and has volumes of maps regarding what is under NYC. Those maps are public and used extensively by urban explorers and historians to explore and document the system. There's just too much traffic under there for things to remain unknown. Even if there were secret tunnels, there would be an incredible number of rumors about them there, which there are not.

As for military subways in the western United States, it's highly unlikely that they exist to any great length. There could be subways between areas of certain large bases, that's possible, but the sheer size of the American west makes it a monumental undertaking. Think about how long it took to build the Chunnel or dig a new subway line in a major city, now multiply that by hundreds if not thousands of times. The manpower needed would be enough to employ the entire United States! On top of this, it has to be remembered that when you dig a hole that dirt has to go somewhere, entire mountains could be built out of a system that extensive, so where's the excavated material?


reply posted on 13-12-2012 @ 07:32 PM by ProjectJimmy
Originally posted by phroziac
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by gorgon8819
Care to share where you found this info, I am curious if maybe Chicago has one of these secret subway systems.


There is no public info available actually. So I just used Google to track down various hints that there may be secret subways. Im sure Chicago has some interesting underground too.
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I always wanted to sneak underground in chicago and explore, never was brave enough. The city has actually been raised several times, downtown is quite a few feet above ground, some areas even have multi level streets, they put the truck docks underground so you dont notice them and such. A couple years ago a car fell through a road about 20 feet...that was in the southside, where there isnt much underground....dont go to the southside to explore though, its a war zone


Chicago does actually have quite a bit hidden under it, but it's more abandoned than secret. There used to be a freight subway that ran under just about every street Downtown and was used to make deliveries to businesses. It ended up going belly up once coal furnaces stopped being used in every building, but in 1992 when they were working on the Kinzie Street Bridge they accidentally poked a hole in a tunnel under the river and the whole system flooded, along with every basement that had been connected to it. It was a complete mess!

Today the tunnels are still there, with big thick pressure doors by the river to keep it from happening again.

The question this really raises for me would be: since building secret tunnels is an expensive and long process, have any abandoned ones been taken over by other entities for secret projects? Here in London there are the old rumors that the MoD or MI5 still use abandoned tube stations, but I've never seen any proof beyond the tunnels they admit to having already.

Edit: here's the Wikipedia page on the old freight subway:
Chicago Tunnel Company
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reply posted on 9-1-2013 @ 08:09 AM by karl 12
Originally posted by Skyfloating

The follwing image shows the secret Moscow Metro line. You see, in New York and London a secret subway line is only rumored, but in Moscow its fairly well established that there is a secret subway that the public cant access, even though the Government still hasnt admitted it.

Metro-2 in Moscow, Russia, is the informal name for a purported secret underground metro system which parallels the public Moscow Metro. The system was supposedly built, or at least started, during the time of Joseph Stalin and was codenamed D-6 by the KGB. It is supposedly still operated by the Presidential General Directorate of Special Programmes (ru) and Ministry of Defence.


Source


Fascinating reading as always mate -haven't had time to go through the entire thread but there's a relevant article below from the New Zealand Herald about how builders tearing down an enormous Moscow hotel next to the Kremlin 'believe they have stumbled across a network of secret Soviet tunnels beneath its foundations and perhaps a nuclear bunker capable of holding 4000 people' -it also goes on to mention how government agents were attempting to keep builders away from this area.


Moscow's secret tunnels found

Shalva Chigirinsky, the millionaire developer whose firm won the building contract, said mysterious agents - presumably from the Federal Security Service (FSB) - were keeping his workers away from part of the hotel site.

"Some people in plain clothes are not allowing us access to an area where there is a tunnel from the Kremlin," he told the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper.


The authorities have not responded to his claim; indeed, the FSB has been known to call in Russian journalists for questioning, merely for speculating about what might be hidden beneath the streets of Moscow.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, however, there have been credible reports that subterranean Moscow is honeycombed with secret facilities whose construction began in the late 1940s, under Stalin.


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Cheers.
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