posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 08:50 PM
reply to post by hawkiye
I get the impression a lot of folks even here still don't believe the economy will completely collapse.
I do not think that you are aiming to the the right target, it is not a question of disbelieving that the economy will completely collapse (in fact it
has already done so, and it has not been only recently). The question is the blind faith people still have that things will improve.
There is no chance that things will improve not even if by chance the politic will would force a drastic chance in society, this has been explained by
the analysis of previous collapsing civilizations.
We are in a very deep bind, our civilization today is essentially driven by energy considerations more than other economic factors (the economy
reflects all human interactions and is principally based in human requirements).
The major problem is optimization, much of what could be done to improve our quality of life (that is making things better) would require today a too
drastically a chance to ever consider it viable before a catastrophic system collapse. The major problem being how the political systems in its vast
majority works (that is it works badly to for the collective and prevents long term planning).
You are also limiting your economic collapse to the monetary system, that is a very limited view in today complex society. We will see the
exacerbation of all problems at once and over time (for instance food and security will be immediately affected but there are slower effects like in
research and education and long term like demographics and energy, ultimately even affecting ecologic sustainability, all like will work like a domino
I really appreciate the movie Soylent Green
in its vision of our real possible but distant
future. It will not be easier for future generations and we can be already on the brink of a situation without return (at least for the 99% of us).
It should be clear to all that because the control over the effect the drastic changes required is under the 1% we will most probably continue in our
path of decline, even if not always linearly the easy times previous generations enjoyed will become scarcer and situations of rupture will become