FYI: Important must read about unemployment benefits, page 1


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reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 04:08 PM by SourGrapes
reply to post by thepolish1



Of course it is all ending. Unemployment was only extended just long enough to keep Obama's voting block. The unemployed have served their purpose, benefits will now stop.

You are now released back into the pool, to go back to being the responsibility of your state..

Same will happen with welfare and foodstamps.


reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 04:20 PM by Sissel
reply to post by thepolish1



Relax....this happens quite often. As of this time of year most states are out of money. This has been going on for the last few years.

Huffington Post

If Congress does not reauthorize federal unemployment programs, more than 2 million unemployed Americans will abruptly stop receiving checks on Dec. 28. It's one of the less-discussed aspects of the so-called "fiscal cliff," the moment when a host of tax hikes and spending cuts take effect at the end of the year.


Congress has waited until the last minute to reauthorize extended unemployment insurance during the holiday seasons of each of the previous three years. Republicans have opposed keeping jobless aid without offsetting its cost via spending cuts elsewhere in the budget, but relented on that point at the end of 2010 when the benefits were paired with continuations of the Bush-era tax cuts.


This is an interesting article that might help you to understand what is going on. My husband had to go through this a couple of times, as he was doing seasonal work.

It's no fun, but until you understand what is going on, I can assure you this is nothing new.


reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 04:50 PM by FreebirdGirl
Originally posted by SourGrapes
reply to
post by thepolish1



Of course it is all ending. Unemployment was only extended just long enough to keep Obama's voting block. The unemployed have served their purpose, benefits will now stop.

You are now released back into the pool, to go back to being the responsibility of your state..

Same will happen with welfare and foodstamps.



Actually this was news back in Febuary. So I don't think it was used to entice votes. Many states have already phased out unemployment after 10 weeks. This will have no extreme effect as it was already factored in the equation.

Ac


reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 05:08 PM by TDawgRex
reply to post by Sissel



People who are on benifits should never "relax".

Daily survival is at stake here.

If anything, people need to go back to school and learn a trade, not a diploma, open a small business, maybe take that lower paying job.

You only relax when you die. Until then, keep up the good fight.


reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 05:53 PM by thepolish1
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to
post by Sissel



People who are on benifits should never "relax".

Daily survival is at stake here.

If anything, people need to go back to school and learn a trade, not a diploma, open a small business, maybe take that lower paying job.

You only relax when you die. Until then, keep up the good fight.


I'm right there with you TDawg, I'd love nothing more than to go to collage and get a bioengineering degree, But I have bills I must pay at least for a few more years. I picked bioengineering, because It would be easy for me. As far as my skills now, I am a jack of all trades, and master of none, I have owned my own business right out of highschool. It kinda sucks when you know you can do anything, but not have the opportunity to do it, ya know??


reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 06:01 PM by Sissel
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to
post by Sissel



People who are on benifits should never "relax".

Daily survival is at stake here.

If anything, people need to go back to school and learn a trade, not a diploma, open a small business, maybe take that lower paying job.

You only relax when you die. Until then, keep up the good fight.


I completely agree with you on that, however, when you are on unemployment benefits, you lose them if you go back to school. Not too many people know that. You are supposed to be actively seeking a job, and you can't if you are enrolled in school.

You can go back to school when you are working, but that has to be on your own dime.

The "relax" comment was meant to let people know that their benefits are not going to be automatically cut off as of December 29th. As soon as they can figure out how to Rob Peter, to pay Paul, the funds will be available.

Without the OP understanding how this works, it's sort of like Chicken Little.
edit on 18-11-2012 by Sissel because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 09:23 PM by thepolish1
Originally posted by Sissel
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to
post by Sissel



People who are on benifits should never "relax".

Daily survival is at stake here.

If anything, people need to go back to school and learn a trade, not a diploma, open a small business, maybe take that lower paying job.

You only relax when you die. Until then, keep up the good fight.


I completely agree with you on that, however, when you are on unemployment benefits, you lose them if you go back to school. Not too many people know that. You are supposed to be actively seeking a job, and you can't if you are enrolled in school.

You can go back to school when you are working, but that has to be on your own dime.

The "relax" comment was meant to let people know that their benefits are not going to be automatically cut off as of December 29th. As soon as they can figure out how to Rob Peter, to pay Paul, the funds will be available.

Without the OP understanding how this works, it's sort of like Chicken Little.
edit on 18-11-2012 by Sissel because: (no reason given)


Ok Sissel, I have NEVER seen or heard what I seen today. It is posted at the local unemployment office, the Exact wording of it is"URGENT NOTICE....as of December 29, 2012, there is no longer any unemployment benefits." Call me stupid, but, that posting being on a state ran office is enough reason for concern, as far as your Chicken Little comment, you remember that comment, when someone who is starving wants what you have and will do anything to get it. Maybe you haven't noticed, but the US of A is going to hell in a hand basket, and quick. If you haven't noticed, get your head out of the sand.
And since I don't understand how the system works, Please, enlighten me. I have been on unemployment before, I have somewhat of an understanding how it works. So with that being said, I look forward to my Enlightenment...pffftt Better yet, I will personally go there tomorrow as I know the woman who is the secretary. And I will let you know what I have learned.
Your Chicken Little comment Irked me. I understand you are entitled to your opinion. BUT, i'd like to know what you do for a living. I have what some people would call a very UNIQUE perspective on things going on in the everyday world. would you like to be enlightened, Buy a 800mhz scanner and just listen to what goes on.
Just today, a 50-60 year old man robbed an Aldis for crying out loud. I actually pitty people like you, cuz your heads in the clouds, and you are oblivious to what is actually going on, Man, your gonna have a really rude awakening, and that is putting it nicely.
edit on 18-11-2012 by thepolish1 because: had to add a LITTLE something.



reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 10:22 PM by Gridrebel
reply to post by thepolish1



No offense, but did you have the opportunity to ask at the unemployment office if the notice was a permanent forever type of a notice or temporary until further notice type of notice? Just wondering.

I think the bad economy is going to create a lot of migration. First to the states that can still give handouts. Then to the states that have moderate year 'round climates.

God, I'm loving MN more and more every day.


reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 11:24 PM by thepolish1
reply to post by Gridrebel



No, I did not have the opprotunity to speak with anyone there because it was saturday, and the office was closed, but as I stated, I am going there tomorrow to find out, I will come back, and relay what I find out, If I was jumping the gun in anyway I will apologize, but from what it said, there is no longer unemployment benefits as of Dec. 29. Seems pretty cut and dry if you ask me.



reply posted on 18-11-2012 @ 11:38 PM by randyvs
reply to post by thepolish1



The american people are sunk. Everyone should wonder if there's a hollow point with their name on it ?



So much for the pursuit of happiness.
Thanks for posting OP
SnF
edit on 18-11-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 12:01 AM by Happy1
reply to post by randyvs



I think, when you see a posting like this, one must think of the 47% who really believe that there will be that hand-out with their name on it. We all know people like this -- " SS isn't going broke", "Those politicians will figure something out", "They would never do this to me."

Most of you know what I'm saying.


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 12:23 AM by sonnny1
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to
post by Sissel



People who are on benifits should never "relax".

Daily survival is at stake here.

If anything, people need to go back to school and learn a trade, not a diploma, open a small business, maybe take that lower paying job.

You only relax when you die. Until then, keep up the good fight.




Survival.

Do what you have to do.


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 12:38 AM by biggilo
reply to post by TDawgRex



I wish more of my countrymen had that attitude.
In the UK being on benefits is more of a career choice these days, just look at the number of threads on this site alone with spongers complaining about their benefits.

I have never overly cared or had much interest in American affairs but I do feel for you all on this, Socialism is a cancer. If you want to go from being the most powerful country in the world to a laughing stock do what the UK done and embrace Socialism.


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 12:54 AM by hawkiye
It's already happened to millions of us months and even years ago. I was on it for a while and was really worried when I finally got the notice I had exhausted all benefits emergency extensions etc. We have somehow managed and though its been tough I actually feel better not having to worry about when the checks would stop coming.

I know those still depending on it won't feel better hearing it but you and the country will all be better off in the long run. I have been doing handyman work and odd jobs. Its feast or famine but it taste a lot better then government corn even if they did steal it from my paycheck all my many decades of working. So chin up and make a list of all your skills and start advertising them for hire on craigs list or your local throw away paper.

Set up an aquaponics system and start selling winter veggies, Try and stick to necessary things Even making homemade soaps and lotions tinctures etc. Some folks are making 50 to 100 thousand a year on Etsy with some of that stuff. Open your mind get with family and or friends and start brainstorming. Cancel the cable quit eating out have some yard sales etc etc and never give up!

Also free college courses here:
www.coursera.org...

I think much of college is a waste of time but thought I would post this for those interested. These are from prominent universities too...

Edited to add: One of the major reason this is so stressful for folks is because most of us are in such great debt. If we did not have a mortgage, credit card debt, car loans, student loans etc. or even have to pay rent to pay off someone elses mortgage we would not be in this mess, people would not be so worried when losing a job. We are so locked into the idea we have to maintain the current life style when in reality sometimes less is more.

My point is it might be better to consider walking away from some or all of your phony debt and get a fresh start. If you can get a piece of property free and clear or with a very small mortgage that wont break you if you loose a job then you would be better off. It's going to be hard either way so why not be working to build your own house on some cheap property somewhere? Get an older RV and park it on there and build as you go trade and barter etc. its better then waiting on government corn worrying about getting evicted and at least there is light at the end of the tunnel that you are working toward self sufficiency and real freedom rather then depending on a job to keep paying banksters for a place to live and fearing when the next hammer will drop..

I have vowed I will never buy anything major like a house or car on credit ever again. I'll pay as I go and live within my means the peace of mind is priceless!

edit on 19-11-2012 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)

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