Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by EnochWasRight
As GodLover25 states, all knees will bow,
And you're fine with this? You want to kneel before your master, be his adoring slave, submitting to his authority over you with no room for
questioning his perfect intentions.
You have no idea how much I HATE that idea. We are no one's slave. I owe my allegiance to no one, not to a god or a devil. I am not a pawn to be
played with by supernatural beings. The whole premise is ludicrous and insulting.
Until you realize that God stands for freedom, peace, kindness, gentleness, abounding love and perfect unity--everything you lack here in this
place--your pride will win the war with your soul and God's Spirit within you that is trying to save you. We struggle to rise to this, yet that
kingdom of abundance and rest is already available. Faith does not come without hope.
You declare that you are sufficient all by your self without realizing that you only do two things. You think and move to change the states of matter
around you. You do not make the sun shine, the Earth turn or your hair grow. Your eyes function as a result of a cause separate from you and your
ears hear by a mechanism you do not produce. ALL of it is done FOR you and not by you. You think and move. God does the rest. Without him you are
in a chaotic void. With Him is peace and life.
If we seek God for our own good (reward), then we are duplicitous. If we seek Him to avoid judgment, we are again self-seeking. It might bother you
to give service of good works to the one that you owe them to, but I choose the one that holds truth and love above my own contrived pride; not
because of my own duplicity, but because it's the right thing to do. No gift can be given apart from earning that gift first. God has earned what He
is giving. I am humbled that He shares it with me; that he makes me something from nothing; that he gives me the very breath that I breathe.
10 Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2 For I can testify about them that they
are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3 Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own,
they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
-----We pray and support Israel because we are all pictured by their lost light and blindness to truth. They are the light that is the reflecting
point of God to us. By their light, we are saved. I don't support them because they are within the context of truth. I support them because LOVE
covers a multitude of sin for ALL of us.
5 Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the law: “The person who does these things will live by them.” 6 But the righteousness that
is by faith says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into
the deep?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your
heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that
you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference
between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord
will be saved.”
Saved from WHAT! Yourself!!! By our own actions with God's fruit, we will destroy what has been given. We will perish with no chance for life on
Earth. Yet, God continues to give.
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if
anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear
and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
When the Earth is on the edge of an extinction event due to man's error, who will you trust? Which kneed will bow first and which eye will see Christ
coming to save YOU!
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