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Originally posted by Osiris1953
reply to post by AdamOver
Ah, but what they forget is that without the rest of us their money has no value.
Our economy is integral to the world's economy. If our American economic system collapses, the consequences will reverberate through this world, and I dare not think of the full gravity of the effects.
Originally posted by bg_socalif
Originally posted by MystikMushroom
OT side note:
The store was completely sold out of Twinkie's today.
I couldn't justify spending $4.50 on a box of "zingers". We all know about the Twinkie shelf life; but what about those guys?
And yes -- that is approximately how much a box of Hostess products cost here!
They are collectors items now
They'll stay "fresh" for decades to come.
Originally posted by SonicInfinity
Originally posted by litterbaux
People don't walk off the job without another job.
There aren't enough jobs available to take all the walmart employee's.
I know for a fact that if every single Walmart employee walked out on Black Friday and got fired, they would fill every single position by the following Monday. That is just how bad unemployment is in the US right now.
Google "Arvest Bank" sometime. The rabbit hole just goes deeper.
Originally posted by Jeremiah65
I heard a little about this on the news radio coming out of DC earlier today. Kudos to the people for trying to say "enough is enough".
Look...I am not against Capitalism at all...I participate in it to the best of my limited abilities...but here is the rub.
"I" remember when things pretty much closed down "for family time" and the sidewalks were rolled up. I remember that "Black Friday" was intended to be a fun time as most every average worker had the day off and those that actually worked the stores, got big fat bonuses cause the sales were going to justify it.
Now...that isn't good enough...."Let's invade Thanksgiving day".
The sad part is, there are some bi-polar, manic depressive consumerists that are going to lose their mind if they are not the first inline.
Take a step back from the crack pipe and try using your mind....
Christmas is not about "what" you give...it is all about the act of giving. Here is a real throw back thought for you...my hobby is woodcarving...I like to carve "utilitarian" things...(in other words, useful things). I hand carve bowls (not turned on a lathe) and spoons and cooking utensils (called treenware). I give a lot of these things away for Christmas presents. Is it because I am cheap? No...it's because the things I make will be around for your grandkids to use. My stuff is made from the best local hardwoods and a spend a lot of time making them as close to perfect as I can get. There is no way I could ever put a price on the things I make because I am somewhat anal and I spend a huge amount of time making them just right.
People need to stop feeding this monster...the consumerist mindset. That is not our purpose here folks...though the TV and the media will sure make you feel like that. You are not a mouth on legs...your soul purpose is not to "consume".
I fully intend to boycott Wal Mart and others this holiday season. Does it matter? No...there are too many empty skulls that will still go buy their cheap imported junk to give away and feel like they did a good thing. If and when I buy a gift, it will be from a mom and pop shop somewhere. Not only because it supports them, but chances are they are selling far more unique items than a mega store like Wally world, Target, Sears, Penny's...etc. Supporting the local mom and pop shops...chances are you are also supporting another local vendor.
Screw Walmart....I have nothing but ill wishes for that corporation and the family behind it.
Originally posted by camaro68ss
Let them walkout, fire them, then hire people who have been iching to get work for the last two years. You really want union wage increase at walmart? guess what happens when wages increass? prices increase too.
Originally posted by litterbaux
People don't walk off the job without another job.
There aren't enough jobs available to take all the walmart employee's.
This will not happen.
I will give you credit for a well thought out post. The evidence you posted is valid but trust me, it won't happen.
Originally posted by darkhorserider
reply to post by MystikMushroom
I HATE workers that don't want to honor the agreement they were thrilled to get the day they were hired. They applied for a job, interviewed for a job, and accepted the job when it was offered, for the pay that was offered, and the requirements that were outlined, but then at some point down the road they think they deserve more?
If you don't like working at Walmart, then stop working there! Sure, the pay is low, the hours are crappy, you are on your feet the whole shift, but that is exactly what you agreed upon when accepting the position.
Try being a CNA for a day or two. Same crappy hours, same crappy pay, but instead of standing behind a cash register, you are cleaning up adult diapers and getting spit on and cursed at, and you have to spend money out of your own pocket for the training and licensing for the privilege of taking the menial, abusive job! Why don't CNA's and LPN's walk out of their crappy jobs and leave all the old folks without care?
Are conditions at Walmart worse than Diamond mines in Africa? Coal mines? 19th century sewing factories? Do these lazy-ass people even know what bad working conditions are? Have they ever seen bad working conditions? I HIGHLY doubt it!
Get up at 5 a.m. on a brisk -10 degree morning to go pressure wash cars at a car lot for $7 per hour, while chipping the ice off your face mask and gloves and going home with blisters in your boots, and wind burn around your eyes, and lips that are cracked and bleeding from the cold dry air. And even that isn't bad working conditions, it is exactly what the job was expected to be, for the pay that I agreed to, and I was happy to have!
Screw these people, I hope they get fired on the spot.edit on 16-11-2012 by darkhorserider because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Bramble Iceshimmer
Really, I would rather go shopping than spend Thanksgiving with the family. They will sit around bitching about this and that, bad mouthing anyone not there and the Neanderthals will watch football. Thanksgiving doesn't mean what it used to. There are no more Norman Rockwell Thanksgivings over the river and through the woods to Grandfather's house.
Originally posted by badgerprints
I love it when somebody takes a job and then demands more than they agreed to work for.
If its not worth doing then don't take that job.
Wal mart gets away with paying low wages because people agree to work for them.
I usually only buy toilet paper from Walmart because that's what most of their products are good for but I'd consider spending more on Black Friday just to push a full cart through a picket line.
I've got no respect for the gang mentality.
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by badgerprints
I love it when somebody takes a job and then demands more than they agreed to work for.
If its not worth doing then don't take that job.
Wal mart gets away with paying low wages because people agree to work for them.
I usually only buy toilet paper from Walmart because that's what most of their products are good for but I'd consider spending more on Black Friday just to push a full cart through a picket line.
I've got no respect for the gang mentality.
so what would be your personal breaking point, minimum wage?...if wal-mart was able to push through a law allowing them to pay only 5 dollars an hour?
Originally posted by ldyserenity
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by badgerprints
I love it when somebody takes a job and then demands more than they agreed to work for.
If its not worth doing then don't take that job.
Wal mart gets away with paying low wages because people agree to work for them.
I usually only buy toilet paper from Walmart because that's what most of their products are good for but I'd consider spending more on Black Friday just to push a full cart through a picket line.
I've got no respect for the gang mentality.
so what would be your personal breaking point, minimum wage?...if wal-mart was able to push through a law allowing them to pay only 5 dollars an hour?
Sadly, that day is coming, they will dishonor the minimum wage and repeal the laws to make us more competitive globally this is why they're letting the fiscal cliff and plunge happen it was well orchestrated....they want us to work for chickenscratch and live like the illegals forty people or more to a house (Which is very bad for things like MRSA and Meningitis, etc that spreads through living quarter that are overfilled such as college dorms, etc).
Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by badgerprints
For a bit of perspective, I suggest you get a job at Wal-Mart and then perhaps you'll see what these folks are talking about.
That is, if you haven't bought the corporate propaganda hook, line and sinker.