posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 01:52 AM
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
According to God's plan, Ishmael should never have existed. Ishmael was born because of Sarah's meddling in God's plan for salvation. If Sarah had
been patient and waited on Yahveh's promise, this whole deal between the arabs, ishmaelites and israelites wouldn't be going on today and Islam
wouldn't even exist.
You make it seem as if Sarah confounded Gods plan in some way.
Do you think God was surprised when Abraham fathered Ishmael with Hagar... or was God fully in control?
If God did not want Ishmael to be born, He could have warned Abraham not to sleep with Hagar.
God was fully in control, He allowed Ishmael to be born...even sent His angel to save him from dying from thirst..which means God willed Ishmael to
live and become a nation.
Islam exists because Ishmael was murdering bandit, a wild ass of a man "always to be in his brother's faces".
Islam exists because God willed it.
You call Ishmael a "murdering bandit"... but nowhere in the bible do we read that. You are making up your own stories.
According the Bible...
-Ishmael was a son of Abraham, covered under the promise to Abraham
-He was himself blessed to become a great nation.
-He was one of the few people to have been named directly by God
-He was saved from death by God in the desert.
-God was "with" Ishmael as he was growing up.
-Ishmael reunited with his brother to bury Abraham.
Can such a man really be an enemy of the Israelites?
Only christian fundamentalists seem to think so. Their backwards logic is hardly surprising since they also support the same people who hate Jesus and
see him as a false prophet.