Believe it or not its the truth.

The mind speaks. It talks about tomorrow. Tomorrow is a belief - tomorrow is not a fact and tomorrow has never been seen. Yet the mind 'believes' in tomorrow.
The mind believes in time because it needs time to continue (mind is time).
It believes it has to survive so fights to stay alive.
The mind believes life is hard and that it should be better. It looks for something to make it better, it believes there is something, somewhere that will make it better. The belief is that it will get better in the future.

The belief is that it is not right, that there is something wrong.

Originally posted by kudegras
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Yeah I agree with the shades of grey, but I think we all have to play the game in order to survive in this world which means, even though we don't want to be we are controlled in some way.
Religion, Government, Media, Employment, Sports Club, Supermarket, Utilities all of these things and more control our lives and are part of the Paradigm that has been created to control.
The shades of grey is just the extent to which you participate.

I am Wealthy and worked VERY HARD to be so. Because of this and other factors...I have much more autonomy than the average person. Still I find that those who are Extremists are NOT TOO BRIGHT! People should not fear these type of people and meet them HEAD ON without allowing themselves to be flustered by the inevitable SCREAMING that is the only thing and way these Extremists know how to do to get their way. They can EASILY BE OUT SMARTED. People need to know this.

Split Infinity

I had no idea a forum like this existed on the internet. This thread is the strongest dosage of truth I've read in a long while. The propensity for human self-delusion has permeated every facet of society at this point.

Even science has become more of a belief system than summaries of objective observation. Rarely does science have any concept of the subjects they it so flippantly describes. We toss around terms like "three-dimensional" without even properly understanding what a dimension is, and no one thinks twice about it because we've all been taught to obey it from birth. Belief of these sorts of concepts blind us to obvious realities such as: we don't see in three-dimensions - we see in two-dimensional surface areas. How can a truth this obvious go unrecognized for so long if not for the power "belief" in the concept of three-dimensionality?

This doesn't suggest that we aren't three-dimensional, but we clearly don't SEE in three-dimensions, so why aren't we acknowledging as much? We talk about "time" and "space" as though we understand either of those concepts. We've been "objectively" examining these subjects for a few hundred years at most; which is hardly long enough to determine ANY patterns of a system which is measured at billions of years old. How have we managed to convince ourselves otherwise?

Our true potential is almost limitless. Belief is the limitation we place on ourselves. We really do need to wake up though, before too much damage is done and not enough time is left to learn how to fix it. Again.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
Yes i think this is true and agree we tend to be caught in a mirror of reflection. We arnt watching our true self we are instead watching a reflection that requires us to conn ourselfs; as if there is a spell which is holding our gaze on the mirror.

this is as true in the literal sense as it is in the figurative. Putting outer space into context more or less proves it. The solar system itself is a hall of mirrors which reflects ourselves over and over, and it's easy to spot if you know what to look for. This is a crude summary:

Take a look at the Jupiter system, particularly the Galilean moons, and contextualize that with Venus, Earth, the Moon, and outer space itself. Think of tidal locking between Earth and its moon, and also how Venus appears to be tidally locking itself to Earth. Look at the laplace resonance between the Galilean moons of Jupiter which just so happen to be inverted reflections of Venus, Earth, Moon and SPACE ITSELF, both in appearance and chemical composition. It also happens that just after the random as hell asteroid belt that all the "planets" suddenly become inverted into gas giants. Then after the Kuiper Belt they all invert back into small rocky "dwarf planets". Asteroid belts are the dimensional boundaries where the mirror reflection begins: this is why all the gas giants have them. Each one is a reflection of the same image moved across another dimension. The gas giants aren't orbiting around the Sun in the center, they're orbiting the asteroid belt...everything inside the asteroid belt is being reflected in each gas giant planet. Understanding the concept of dimensionality inexorably leads to this conclusion.

Outer space is a brilliant illusion. It is just OUR WORLD (literally, the world we live on) flipped inside out and it has all the pieces laid out in neat order. It's amazing that science has never noticed this despite its accumulated centuries of "objective observation". The proof is literally all around us. And this is old knowledge, only recently forgotten. Astrology, pyramids, all these concepts were common knowledge in the age which lies beyond the scope of recorded history.

But that's what the power of belief does - it blinds you to obvious truths. We really do need to wake up guys, and we can't be passive about getting the word out. Things are about to begin to change. It won't happen overnight, it'll be countless generations before it's actually upon us, but it is about to BEGIN happening. We can no longer wait for people to educate themselves, we must actively begin educating them, or we won't be able to counteract the flow of misinformation before it's too late. And that's gonna take a looooong time.

If this seems hostile or aggressive, that isn't my intent. I'd just hate to see everything I love lost due to the power of self-deception.

Originally posted by Anthem0
But that's what the power of belief does - it blinds you to obvious truths. We really do need to wake up guys, and we can't be passive about getting the word out. Things are about to begin to change. It won't happen overnight, it'll be countless generations before it's actually upon us, but it is about to BEGIN happening. We can no longer wait for people to educate themselves, we must actively begin educating them, or we won't be able to counteract the flow of misinformation before it's too late. And that's gonna take a looooong time.

If this seems hostile or aggressive, that isn't my intent. I'd just hate to see everything I love lost due to the power of self-deception.

Things (the appearance) never stop changing.
People don't need educating - that would be adding more belief.

'Self' is the deception. There is no 'self' separate from the whole.

What is appearing is appearing but humans believe in things that do not appear. They believe in a 'me in time'. This 'me' is just a story that appears presently.
Everything appears presently. Words appear presently - words like 'tomorrow' or 'future' or 'later' and the words make believe.
Belief hides the truth.

People absolutely require education; call it de-education if you will. But it must needs be done regardless. I don't actually disagree with you at all, I just haven't given in that we're impotent to do anything to change the possible.

Our absorption in the conscious mind is dangerous because the conscious mind itself is backwards and misleading. Everything we see has already happened because we follow light which comes from the OUT direction. It has to travel to get to us, so everything we consciously perceive as the present is already "the past" by the time we're consciously aware of it. To live your life on the path of conscious is to watch the past catch up to you as you move backwards away from it. The subconscious mind has no such limitations, but we've been trained to treat the subconscious mind as an auxiliary sidekick to the backwards-facing conscious mind, and thus we largely ignore it and treat it as simply imagination. This is due to gross self-deception that the conscious mind is the total composite of reality when it is indeed the exact opposite.

And outer space proves this. There's no need to speak about these subjects as though they are ethereal. You can use the science of the subconscious and the conscious to prove these things rather easily. Outer space is the best example, as is atomic space, because they are the exact same thing as one another.

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A deconstuction of the system, a real look at what beliefs have been believed (without examination) is required.
The conditioning is always going to be there but it can be seen. It is amazing how much is not true!

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Is there 'outer' space and 'inner' space? Is there any separation?
Isn't the belief in separation the root cause?

There is an inherent duality in everything. Inner space and outer space are separate things, but only one of them represents physical reality. Such is the nature of nature. However, we are more than just physical beings. We are a combination of the actual and the possible. Conscious physical reality is the actual, the subconscious non-physical reality is the realm of the possible - but both of them together are what comprise reality. We neglect the one at the expense of the other, and that is why the world regresses. That is why conscious reality seems so backwards...because it is.

We don't live in space, we live in time. We call it space, but the Earth is what lives in space, not us. We live in the inner space at the intersection of two and four-dimensionality, both of which are "outer space" environments. Think about it - atomic space and outer space are basically taking the space we live in and flipping it inside out. There is nothing but infinite stretches of emptiness

We say we exist in three-dimensions, but any objective scrutiny of all available evidence says otherwise. We don't see anything in three-dimensions; we see EVERYTHING in two-dimensional surface areas. Volume is completely invisible to us because it's hidden from all light on the IN sides of objects. All we've ever seen is surface areas on the OUT sides of objects. This includes atomic and outer space as well, it just so happens that the infinitely smaller OUT sides of objects in those zones are collapsed into infinite small inner surface areas. But the infinitely large volume is still invisible - hence electrons and the vast emptiness of outer space. Reality even flips itself inside out again at the subatomic level, and suddenly we see waves and particles overlapping, just like we do in our beautiful inner space environment where solid particles and liquid waves coexist peacefully.

Time is not a straight line from beginning to end and there's no reason to believe that it is. In truth, there's every reason to believe that it isn't. This is a very basic concept which humanity forgot at some point near the beginning of recorded history when the truth was perverted into religion. Pyramids constructed all over the world near the equator, all of them built INTO the Earth in manners which escape even our wildest attempts to rationalize them; fabled stories of Atlantis; huge beasts existing hundreds of millions of years ago: these are all derived from this basic concept. A few hundred years of close examination is less than a blink of an eye on a universal scale. The mirror has been reflecting itself for a long, long, long time. Humans only "recently" forgot this; or more appropriately, we haven't taught it to ourselves yet...

Looking into outer space is essentially trying to physically examine the non-physical reality - hence the contradictory nonsense which is outer space; the multiple conflicting infinities, the vast emptiness and lack of heat, moisture, or any other facet of our inner space environment. It resolves into a hall of mirrors effect if you try to peek behind the scenes with the conscious, physical part of your mind - and the illusion reveals itself. The irony is, conscious examination of outer space only teaches us how the un-natural works.

Collective dishonesty and good obedient training are the only reasons these rather obvious truths have gone unheralded for so long. It's very easy to confuse these subjects if you never take the time to think about it. Intellectual laziness where contextless, untrue facts dominate the public conscious has doomed many a civilization.