A great sympathy note to conservatives post election from liberals., page 1


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Topic started on 7-11-2012 @ 08:01 PM by SaturnFX
I did not write this.
I wish I did.
The person whom did seemed to perfectly capture the sentiment that at least I and many other liberals feel about the post election understanding.
Read it, then judge. Don't assume you know what it says before you read it.

The source can be found
Here (warning, liberal commie link/democraticunderground}

Your pollsters and your pundits lied to you.

They told you all the mainstream polls were "skewed".

They told you it was going to be a Romney landslide.

They said their internal polls showed that Romney was ahead, and that Pennsylvania was in play.

They lied.


Poster's name is Dawg.

I don't spend much time over at the DU. been there about twice in as many years.
Anyhow..to mirror what was said...
ya..what he said.


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reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 08:16 PM by kyred
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That's a nice memo....the same could be found from those on the "other side"...but it won't stop the crap that will come from the MSM....

I just want to say, this is all very sad....such divisiveness... it goes on.

All of it all doesn't end with this election...

And for that, I am truly saddened.


reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 08:16 PM by Tw0Sides
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Well written.
Truthful and honest and probably what needed to be said.
To bad it will be ignored.


reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 08:37 PM by FyreByrd
Thank you for posting the memo. My time here at ATS is limited and I am dismayed by the anger that is played out; but it does offer me a real education on perception and how that perception informs our words and actions.

I suspect that many replies will be quick to just the memo, complain about single lines in it and shout bias from the rooftops. All without ever getting the point of the whole memo. They may never get the idea of being lied to because they don't perceive it as such. The average, middle-class red voter (and I know several - like them as people - but don't get how they can believe the things they do) wants to believe these lies and takes offense when you expose the lies. Will not hear the truth regarding a specific lie and will only answer with an attack on the liberal argument.

I see it everywhere - someone questions the truth of a talking point - and bam - attach the questioner's character - divert - never answer. React, react, react - never think, never question, never learn.

It happens on the blue side of the table as well, but to a lesser extent in my experience.

I miss the old conservatives, that had reasoned arguments for their position. I often found the premises the arguments built on to be offensive but the actual line of reasoning sound. Also they were civil in their debate and listened to counter arguments - didn't just shout their opponents down.

I would love to hear a reasoned rebuttal to this plainly written memo.

Thank you for posting it.


reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 08:41 PM by Domo1
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Basically to them Liberal is the "catch all bucket" - - for whatever's got their "craw" at the moment.


Would you define me as right wing Annee?


reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 08:53 PM by Annee
Originally posted by Domo1
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Basically to them Liberal is the "catch all bucket" - - for whatever's got their "craw" at the moment.


Would you define me as right wing Annee?


Not sure.

Do you think logically? Can you see both sides?

Do you think social issues are part of government?

Do you expect everyone to follow a certain set of values?

Do you think Marriage Equality is a Civil Rights issue?

Do you support birth control and a woman has a right to her body?

Did you vote for Romney?

I don't discuss my in-depth politics on ATS - - but I'm more Centrist.



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reply posted on 8-11-2012 @ 06:33 PM by ldyserenity
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I have a note of my own, well I have more like a song for them:


SInce they sure do love riding that Train
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