Originally posted by MsAphrodite
Just like with Katrina, lack of food and water, combined with thousands of new homeless people will lead to chaos.

I bet they wouldnt have ran out of water if this crisis occurred in another country.

There is never an end or shortage of food, water, and supplies when America is taking care of disasters outside of our country. But when there is a crisis here in OUR LAND, aw shucks, looks like we fall short and nothing we can do about it. There could be a disaster in some other country tomorrow and I BET supplies would be never-ending for them. But for us, its tough-luck!!

American tax-payer getting the SHAFT as usual.

One call to NATO and you get marshall law enforced on chaos

I guess what has surprised me the most is, the speed with which people are moving away from this and on to the next

If you'd have told me that New York and oh a few other states had entire cities and barrier islands forced evacuated afterward, and received very little assistance would get less than a week's worth of attention on
some alternative websites, I would not have believed this a few years ago.

I would have thought it would be Fukushima and Katrina on steroids.
Where are the investigative reporters asking the questions about where the people are going?

Did they have nursing home space for all the displaced from destroyed nursing homes to absorb them?

Are there school gyms with 10s of thousands of people waiting for relatives to take them to live with them for the months if not years for them to return to their own homes?

I thought the schools were all back to normal. Well, then what about schools on the evacuated barrier islands and places like Staten Island, lower Manhattan, and many parts of NJ?
Where are those kids going to school?

Originally posted by MyHappyDogShiner
I have always noticed how little prepared for adverse situations people are ever since I was in the military.


The world is not a safe place,safety is a sales pitch to get you out there wasting your money and resources on meaningless # you don't need,while you should be preparing to endure the occasional periods of adversity
that accompany living on an unsafe planet.You don't need to be a "doomsday prepper",but don't be stupid about it either,there are not enough wildlife and unpolluted resources out there for us all to bug out to the woods.

About 10 years ago while I was in the military stationed in San Antonio and a hurricane was coming up the Gulf towards Corpus Christi and we were told it could affect us too. That was when I looked around my house and realized I had about 3 days supplies and after that I would be draining the hot water heater and drinking water we might have filled up in the bath tubs. We would be eating roman noodle rather quickly and nothing else within a week having no food but maybe some canned beets. hehe

Nothing came out of it but it really got me thinking. I live in Washington state now and I'm not a doomsday prepper but I plan for the what if, when the what if might be months on our own.

For water I have a 55 gallon plastic drum with a filtration system in it that can make about 5 gallons per hour of pure water if need be (12,000 gallons before I need to change the filter). I also have a reverse osmosis hand pump that can purify 20,000 gallons before I need to change the filter.

Food, I have 200 pounds of white rice that will store for 20 years as my stable, and I have a lot of long term storage of beans, about 3 months of freeze dried meats, and a lot of canned vegetable etc. I can also hunt as needed if things push out farther than 3 or 4 months for meats.

Since my house is mostly natural gas I have a natural gas (basically unlimited supply) generator hooked up and only a massive earth quake would disrupt that. I also have about 20 gallons of propane and I can go wood if need be.

This doesn't solve everything but it is a good long term foundation that I would only build on if things kept getting worst. The one thing that I think is a most likely failure will be with the power grid for what might be months without it.

It is funny that something as simple as a plastic water drum with a filter system and you are basically set for a very long time for water, and having at least 2 months of food in long term storage in a back closet while storing away ten cheap 5 gallon propane tanks, a family can pretty much last out 90% of anything big that might happen.

I live in the hardest hit part of nj, luckily I had no damage and my power was restored quickly. Everyone I have talked to that lost their homes have pretty much all said that FEMA and the state government is doing a good job so far. The amount of private donations has been also been very high and no one is reporting a lack of water and food.

Soooo, FEMA is the only entity on earth that could provide water to people that need it?

Second Line: BULLSH*T

On a planet that is 70% covered by water, the one agency responsible for providing it can't do it.

Perhaps we should be thinking about eliminating THAT government agency and leave the real emergency preparedness to the locals?

On a tangential note: Think about all the things state and local governments could do with HALF the payroll tax that gets siphoned off to pay the national debt. If we weren't paying it to a bloated federal kleptocracy, the state and local governments could do a lot more with much less of it.

What should EVERYONE learn from this, the government, when push comes to shove, will not be there to look out for you. GET PREPARED!!!

One of our family friends works for FEMA as a dispatcher in a supply hub (Fort Worth TX). He's been working 12-hour shifts daily since the storm hit, sending out trucks full of supplies and receiving empty ones back for refilling. The only problems he's seeing are with the brokerage firms used to find the drives and coordinate the pickup/dropoff. These brokers are Not FEMA but rather contracted firms with access to thousands upon thousands of drivers and trucking assets.

He's indicated that he's starting to see a steady return of trucks they filled days ago and they're returning empty. He's also indicated that this hub alone has something like 120 thousand Cases of water stocked and ready to ship if needed.

Not saying that what you folks are reading is true or not. Just reporting some facts as I've heard them from someone who's actually hands-on involved and has no angle from a political or conspiracy standpoint.