Secret Shadow Government Found: It's the U.N. and The U.N. IS your worst Nightmare !, page 5

Originally posted by Another_Nut
reply to post by OZtracized

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actually i would say that the u.n. is the socialist side of the u.s. .

unfortunately it also happens to be the side pushing for a world government. and since a lot of this globe is socialist already they have no problems with agenda 21.

i want people to read this statement by Siemens on "sustainable cities"

In 2010, 82 percent of Americans lived in cities; by 2050 it will be 90 percent.

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2005 = aprox. 230 mil. in cities. 60 mil rural
2050 = aprox. 400 mil. in cities 45 mil rural

now these are general estamates and guestaments i took my numbers from here and as they range from 400-500 mil i tried to come in somewhere in the middle.

what that really says is that our map will look like this sooner than you think.

edit on 2-11-2012 by Another_Nut because: (no reason given)

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is socialist about america or the UN!!!!!!!!!

I wish people would stop spreading such vile and shameless propaganda, knowningly or unknowningly.

Socialism is proletariat orientated(common means of production) and capitalism is bourgeoise orientated(elite control production and banking).

Socialism and communism brought down the monarchs of europe and it lasted for a while till these same eltist monsters reinfiltrated with global "free trade" capitalism. Private rich folks own banking and the various industries, which alone proves the conspiracy.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

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the u.n disagrees

Rio+20 (2012) Main article: United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development In 2012, at the United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development the attending members reaffirmed their commitment to Agenda 21 in their outcome document called "The Future We Want".

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agenda 21 is a socialist nwo agenda i suggest you read up or at least watch the vid i posted before trying to refute my claims.

Originally posted by Another_Nut
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

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the u.n disagrees

Rio+20 (2012) Main article: United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development In 2012, at the United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development the attending members reaffirmed their commitment to Agenda 21 in their outcome document called "The Future We Want".

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agenda 21 is a socialist nwo agenda i suggest you read up or at least watch the vid i posted before trying to refute my claims.

I already said the UN has been infiltrated by the uber rich a long time ago and they are USING the un as a tool to achieve a one world currency and one world government. They are USING the un! These rich monsters are using every tool at their disposal to monopolise markets, to bribe political officials, to corrupt ALL institutions on the planet.

It is absolutely and definitely 100% capitalist orientated. If you don't have capital you cannot invest anywhere. Capital is money primarily. They are called globalists, illuminati, bilderbergers, etc...because they invest their money in return for your slavery.

I am an american living in europe so I know what it means to privatise industry. I also know what it means to monopolise the markets. Not only do these people want everything private, they also want it all in their hands.

When something is publicly owned it means ALL PEOPLE OF THAT NATION have a share in the operation. When something is privately owned it means only a limited number of stockholders own the corporation and they get the dividends.

The ex-ussr was a state planned economy with the public owning everything. It was too oppresive because people had lost a great amount of freedom in picking their careers and their life was regimented. Most people do not support communism for this reason.

Western europeans had a mixed economy were a portion of the economy was public and the rest was privately owned. This allows enterpreneurship and creativity which is good, while simultaneously preventing corruption of labor and resources when critical. A mixed economy provides the best of both worlds!

Originally posted by Another_Nut
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

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Change will come from candidates on registered parties, not from independants.

that made me laugh so hard i almost squirted dp out of my nose.

YouTube Link

Interesting video which explains how democrats and republicans rig the polls, control the media, control the debates.............and of course the multinational corporations bankrolling the entire process. The majority stockholders of these corporations are bilderbergers, from america and foreign origins.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

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ok Agenda 21 comes from a report by the Brundtland Commission called "Our Common Future"

that was authored ,in part, by Gro Brundtland who

is a Norwegian Social democratic politician, diplomat, and physician, and an international leader in sustainable development and public health.

now are you saying agenda 21 is a capitalist or socialist agenda?

reply to post by Another_Nut

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I see where you are going with this but europeans have private central banks just as much as the usa does.

The root cause of all problems is that the central bank has remained in private hands for centuries.

Europeans have had mixed economy socialism that was bastardised with the bourgeiose owning the supply of money. So it was socialism within capitalism. The best example is greece that had to borrow money for decades to support its socialist programs, rather than just issuing the money herself and telling the bankers to go screw themselves.

www.publiccentralbank.com...

In america we had capitalism within capitalism. The top capitalists have monopolised the markets in our country and created cronyism. The Federal Reserve is the dictator-in-chief behind the curtains. It issues money at will, charges banks interest and then forces the government to give bailouts to anyone it wishes to without disclosing anything.

Good observation!!

Originally posted by Onewhoknowsjesus

your correct about your assumption,but do not forget other organizations involved is shadow...trilateral trade comission,Nafta,both connected to UN and both the same power pull.

I hope I'm not beating a dead horse again, but ...

The NAFTA Forum is a series of papers and conferences, organized by the U.S.-Mexico Chamber of Commerce, that aims to clarify key aspects of U.S.-Mexico economic relations framed by the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

www.usmcoc.org...

reply to post by frazzle

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hey mr mayor of oklahoma city (and new co-chair of Smart Growth America's new Local Leaders Council) what do u think about sustainable development and smart growth?

“The individuals participating in Smart Growth America’s Local Leaders Council come from many different walks of life, from different kinds of towns and cities, and from diverse political backgrounds. But we share a common interest in creating jobs, attracting sustained economic development and making great places to live,” Mayor Cornett said. The Local Leaders Council shares and promotes effective policies and programs with fellow elected officials across the country. The Council supports those who are implementing smart growth strategies and advises Smart Growth America about how state and federal decisions affect local communities.

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nothing these people do surprises me anymore

what does surprises me is the fact people do nothing about it.while arguing which puppet will be less evil to them., which master less cruel.

edit to add creepy nwo agenda 21 mayor video

I'll agree. The UN is the problem. They are the secret shadow government. They are pulling the strings here in victoria, though they are not very good at it. I just recently exposed their minions in a failed publicity stunt.
uncoverthefakeroots.wordpress.com...
Of course if you check out the previous article:
uncoverthefakeroots.wordpress.com...

And which government is doing it? Why our own! They give grants to enable people like this, via the soros NGO network through Tides Canada.
Let me repeat, Canada is funding their own eco-terrorist movement, at the behest of the United Nations. The same entity that made it possible to get us all eating GMO's.
[url=http://uncoverthefakeroots.wordpress.com/2012/10/25/gmo-is-a-bioweapon/]http://uncoverthefakeroots.wordpress.com/2012/10/25/gmo-is-a-bioweapon/[/ url]

If you look around my blog you will see articles about Kevin Annett, who is part of the same clique of protected individuals. You will also find articles about the PAOV being pegged as UN shills.

There is lots of stuff up on my youtube channel about it:
XTOFURY
www.youtube.com...

Feel free to check out WAC Victoria's "Occupy Solutions" videos, we really pissed off these government shills by getting out there, speaking, and scoring a huge win despite the hateful, violence inducing strategy, these people employed on us, and the Vic PD who also kept their cool (but I am sick of them looking the other way, when the hell are these criminals going to wind up in jail where they belong?).

Originally posted by Another_Nut
reply to post by frazzle

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hey mr mayor of oklahoma city what do u think about sustainable development and smart growth?

“The individuals participating in Smart Growth America’s Local Leaders Council come from many different walks of life, from different kinds of towns and cities, and from diverse political backgrounds. But we share a common interest in creating jobs, attracting sustained economic development and making great places to live,” Mayor Cornett said. The Local Leaders Council shares and promotes effective policies and programs with fellow elected officials across the country. The Council supports those who are implementing smart growth strategies and advises Smart Growth America about how state and federal decisions affect local communities.

link
nothing these people do surprises me anymore

what does surprises me is the fact people do nothing about it.while arguing which puppet will be less evil to them., which master less cruel.

Nothing surprises me anymore either. But it is only fair to give credit to those few reps who are trying to undo the damage. They're there, but they never seem to get anything passed in their legislatures because the smart growth guys keep stopping them and we don't have their backs. We just don't pay enough attention to what's going on in our neighborhoods. The best kept secrect of the globalists (or whatever you want to call them) is how they keep us looking off into the distance for bad guys we can't touch rather than stopping those we can.

reply to post by frazzle

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like these ?

the corruption in the u.s. has gotten so deep.
even the "good" ones just watch and do nothing.
which is all it takes for evil to triumph

Originally posted by Another_Nut
reply to post by frazzle

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like these ?

YouTube Link

the corruption in the u.s. has gotten so deep.
even the "good" ones just watch and do nothing.
which is all it takes for evil to triumph

If at first you don't suceed, vote vote again. That's why any honorable reps we DO have get nowhere, that's why WE get further in the tank. The opposition is organized in its corruption while we're out there hanging separately wondering what the he!! happened.

I agree with you that the corruption is too deep to fix by working within the system (actually the system was set up to do exactly what its doing.) So I'm totally flummoxed by the fact that people keep casting ballots for the clowns who do as your video shows But I'll have to add that voting for them is doing SOMETHING to help evil triumph.

That doesn't leave a heck of a lot of options.

reply to post by Druid42

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130 countries recently met in tehran, iran. outside of the UN. curious that Isreal, and mitt romney, promising to help, wants to bomb Iran. and their central bank, which has trade agreements with china and russia for oil not demoninated in dollars.

Originally posted by darkstar57
reply to post by Druid42

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130 countries recently met in tehran, iran. outside of the UN. curious that Isreal, and mitt romney, promising to help, wants to bomb Iran. and their central bank, which has trade agreements with china and russia for oil not demoninated in dollars.

This is all it is: the petrodollar is being threatened.

Funny that Russia and China are the ones truly waging war here.

I wonder where the Rothschilds fall? I bet they are financing both sides of this burgeoning war.

Originally posted by Tykonos

They don't see how the UN seeks to undermine the U.S. Constitution and the Constitutions, rights, laws of other countries.

reply to post by JohnPhoenix

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This from an American. I do love a little bit of irony.
(We in the UK feel like that about Europe too, to be fair)

Seriously though, if you take away the UN, what do you have left? Take away the 'good' that the UN allows each Country to achieve and you end up with more wars.

The UN isn't perfect and like with any power base, there will be corruption and twisted politics; but it's easy to pull up the bad bits and insist it's based on evil.

This comment from page one of this disciussion
is demonstrably false.

We humans have never
had a world war, what there wasn't
a league of nations or a UN there first to shepherd it.







All these modern wars are caused by publishing.

Hearst Corporation
spanish american war 1898






It's a conflict between the words resident and nation

German Nationality law 1913 (nationality defined by descent not residency)
en.wikipedia.org...
ww1 july 28, 1914


Melbourne 1914






These self appointed world governing bodies
are nothing more than publishg houses in the war of words

league of nations 1933
ww2 1939


First meeting of the League of Nations.







The UN publishes instructions for their troops,
but they don't train or handle the soldiers they back.

United Nations 1945
palestinians refuse to identify themselves by nation, citing only residency.






First resolution of the United Nations: In January 1946 the General Assembly agreed on the “elimination from national armaments of atomic weapons and of all other major weapons adaptable to mass destruction.”




The United Nations and Disarmament 1945-1965 (www.amazon.com)


Pope goes to UN, calls for end of war and age of peace. 1965



At the 1965 U.N.'s Women's Conference in Beijing, China, Mrs. Bruntland, a medical doctor, made a sustained attack on the Vatican delegation for their opposition to abortion as woman's universal right.

UNICEF was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1965and ... Catholics have also accused UNICEF of supporting abortion through their ...


first "terrorist" incident 1970
wikipedia / list of terrorist incidents 1970


Swissair 330





My conclusion.
The UN has reclassified war as terrorism, unless they do it,
and now we have abortion too.

The birth rate across all of Europe has dropped below 2.1.
No civilization in the history of the world has recovered
from a birth rate that drops below 2.1.
Europe is growing grey on it's feet, with no releif in sight.
They just haven't realized yet.
That most of them are old now and there aren't enough children.

Europeans are extinct,
something no "war" was ever able to accomplish.




Mike Grouchy

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

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I wonder where the Rothschilds fall?

They're right where they've always been, creating illusions of scarcity through their control of resources. Not enough land, not enough gold, not enough money, not enough oil. Of course there's always plenty of all of the above for the Rothchilds et al to wallow in, and we seem to be satisfied enough with the crumbs on the floor so they can keep the lion's share of everything.

Sorry, we're the ones doing all the falling. And now they're crying because there are too many people demanding more crumbs. Their solution? Population reduction. War. Food shortages, etc.. With heavy emphasis on ETC.

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