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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
This article has Nothing to do with the SOUL. It only has to do with Consciousness. If they believe the soul resides in brain cells then that soul Must die as the brain dies. Thats not the same as a soul. These guys ate just using that term to sensationalize their findings.
This is very misleading and harmful to many peoples beliefs world wide. If people believe their immortal eternal soul is simply going to die with the consciousness because of these scientists, then they (the scientists) are actually denying the existence of the soul as we think of it. These would be Anti Soul scientists working for an agenda to wipe out all religion.
They would have to theorize these microtubules live on after the brain dies and continue to contain consciousness. Their theory doesn't touch this aspect.edit on 31-10-2012 by JohnPhoenix because: sp
Originally posted by Tryptych
The fact that "soul" is actually matter doesn't give life any less value IMHO. And the fact that brain could be understood as a biological computer doesn't either. Also, these ideas are anything but new; people like Timothy Leary promoted the idea in the 60's and 70's, but he is still widely overlook because of his status.
The "eight circuit model" is the future of psychology and the study of consciousness. And that's just one way of representing it. IMHO it's anything but complete.
Peace out.
Originally posted by happykat39
I find it interesting that this should come out now since I just wrote a short piece on the same subject for my own web site about a week ago and put it up on my site on 10/24/2012.
Link to the full article
I recently came across an article on the psychic connection that has been shown to exist between identical twins. The article was in Issue#11 of Edge Science and was titled “The Twin Thing”. Here are two relevant excerpts from the article along with their research source notes. (the two excerpts are at the link to the full article)
Since the connection has been proven this started me thinking about how such a weak electrical signal as a brain wave could possibly have any influence beyond a few feet, never mind across a continent. The only thing that I could think of was the phenomenon known as quantum entanglement. Albert Einstein described it as “spooky action at a distance”. Quantum entanglement is a connection between two subatomic particles such as photons, which were created from the same event, which allows one of the particles to react to a state change in the other instantaneously over any distance. This seems to violate the universal speed limit of the speed of light.
Originally posted by AkumaStreak
Welp, watched the video. Seems like a pretty big stretch to me. Hard to even call it science imo, even though I know it is. Point is, they came up with a wild idea, then put the burden of proof on others (in the video they say something like "no one's debunked it yet..."). I mean I can tell you we're all children of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I'll be awaiting your debunkal!
Originally posted by Raelsatu
Originally posted by AkumaStreak
Welp, watched the video. Seems like a pretty big stretch to me. Hard to even call it science imo, even though I know it is. Point is, they came up with a wild idea, then put the burden of proof on others (in the video they say something like "no one's debunked it yet..."). I mean I can tell you we're all children of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I'll be awaiting your debunkal!
The "flying spaghetti monster" analogy is a redundant, shallow minded cop-out. People use it to compare to anything that offers an explanation for consciousness, the soul/spirit, an afterlife; basically anything that's not yet mainstream empirical science.
If you've watched multiple videos & the papers, which go very in-depth into the explanation for this theory, you'd know that to compare it to magic and mythology is nonsense. This theory is somewhat viable & offers the information necessary to entertain it without having to resort to esoterica, or typical faith-based dogma.
Saying that it's akin to the "flying spaghetti monster" is intellectually insulting.... so please, keep it to yourself.
Originally posted by TheJourney
Star for anyone who understands and respects Leary
He is still ahead of the times to this day. The time will soon come that a variety of our social taboos will fall down, and then we will begin to appreciate the work of guys like Leary at a much wider scale...incredibly brilliant, just not yet widely recognized.