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Opinion On Ghost Photo

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posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 10:58 AM

Originally posted by jtrenthacker
reply to post by Diggz

Cool site. I uploaded the original photo and here is what I got:

That can't be what you got. Go back and look at it. Why does it look like a negative when I open the pic in there?

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:01 AM
reply to post by jtrenthacker

Who knows? one thing for sure, your profile picture is creepy!
The post was cool, s&f.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:02 AM
Well then Yea, I do believe this isn't real. But It definitely is creepy.

Shadow ghosts watching our every move!

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:07 AM
reply to post by Sissel

It is the ELA version of the photo. here is the page that explains it.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:09 AM
reply to post by Sissel

I'd have to agree with you, looks to much like a "cut and paste" job, a poor one at that.. Just my opinion.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:21 AM
Cool pic, Im undecided tho

Im suprised nobody has called for EXIF yet

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:28 AM
reply to post by cartenz

I looked at the properties on the original and the EXIF Version is 0230. What does this mean?

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:38 AM
It looks like a darth vader cut out standing behind some dude trying to look bad for a picture.

But that's just my opinion...

Reminds me of when I would sneak up behind my mom in a dark costume when she was giving out candy for Halloween and would watch the kids scream and run

Had to stop doing that because it scared the little kids to bad

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:45 AM

Originally posted by jtrenthacker
reply to post by cartenz

I looked at the properties on the original and the EXIF Version is 0230. What does this mean?

thats just the EXIF version...

The EXIF data should show a whole heap of info if it was taken with a digital camera, like camera model, shutter speed, f-stop, ASA, et al.

If this was taken with a film cameran and then scanned, the EXIF would not give much

I only mentioned EXIF because it seems it the first thing ATSres ask for when presented with an image to verify.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:56 AM
reply to post by cartenz

Gotcha. I uploaded the original digital file that was sent to me to FotoForensics this is the metadata that it listed. Keep in mind that the site has a 5mb upload limit, so I had to make the image size smaller in photoshop.

File Type: JPEG
MIME Type: image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order: Little-endian (Intel, II)
Current IPTC Digest: 6dedbe66ee1f9e63717e6541369f9774
Image Width: 1584
Image Height: 1056
Encoding Process: Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample: 8
Color Components: 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling: YCbCr4:4:4 (1 1)
JFIF Version: 1.02
Camera Model Name: X-Pro1
Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
X Resolution: 72
Y Resolution: 72
Resolution Unit: inches
Software: Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
Modify Date: 2012:10:19 11:53:11
Artist: Picasa
Y Cb Cr Positioning: Co-sited
Exposure Time: 1/52
F Number: 2.0
Exposure Program: Aperture-priority AE
ISO: 320
Sensitivity Type: Standard Output Sensitivity
Exif Version: 0230
Date/Time Original: 2012:09:07 10:49:38
Create Date: 2012:09:07 10:49:38
Components Configuration: Y, Cb, Cr, -
Compressed Bits Per Pixel: 3.2
Shutter Speed Value: 1/53
Aperture Value: 2.0
Brightness Value: 1.39
Exposure Compensation: 0
Max Aperture Value: 1.4
Metering Mode: Multi-segment
Light Source: Unknown
Focal Length: 35.0 mm
Flashpix Version: 0100
Color Space: sRGB
Exif Image Width: 1584
Exif Image Height: 1056
Interoperability Index: R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
Interoperability Version: 0100
Related Image Width: 4896
Related Image Height: 3264
Focal Plane X Resolution: 2092
Focal Plane Y Resolution: 2092
Focal Plane Resolution Unit: cm
Sensing Method: One-chip color area
File Source: Digital Camera
Scene Type: Directly photographed
Custom Rendered: Normal
Exposure Mode: Auto
White Balance: Auto
Focal Length In 35mm Format: 53 mm
Scene Capture Type: Standard
Sharpness: Normal
Subject Distance Range: Unknown
Image Unique ID: f4a4d0fb653e99302bf3881f6adc7888
Lens Info: 35mm f/1.4
Lens Model: XF35mmF1.4 R
Lens Serial Number: 21A21914
Compression: JPEG (old-style)
Thumbnail Offset: 1324
Thumbnail Length: 5417
PrintIM Version: 0250
Envelope Record VersionL: 4
Coded Character Set: UTF8
Application Record Version: 4
By-line: Picasa
IPTC Digest: 6dedbe66ee1f9e63717e6541369f9774
Displayed Units X: inches
Displayed Units Y: inches
Global Angle: 30
Global Altitude: 30
Photoshop Thumbnail: (Binary data 5417 bytes)
Photoshop Quality: 12
Photoshop Format: Standard
Progressive Scans: 3 Scans
XMP Toolkit: Adobe XMP Core 4.2.2-c063 53.352624, 2008/07/30-18:12:18
Creator Tool: Digital Camera X-Pro1 Ver1.11
Metadata Date: 2012:10:19 11:53:11-04:00
Format: image/jpeg
Native Digest: 256,257,258,259,262,274,277,284,530,531,282,283,296,301,318,319,529,532,306,270,271,272,305,315,33432;5521562264042612EED6F395F898539B
Date/Time Digitized: 2012:09:07 10:49:38-04:00
Color Mode: RGB
ICC Profile Name: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Instance ID: xmp.iid
Document ID: xmp.did
Original Document ID: xmp.did
Creator: Picasa
Flash Fired: False
Flash Return: No return detection
Flash Mode: Off
Flash Function: False
Flash Red Eye Mode: False
History Action: saved
History Instance ID: xmp.iid
History When: 2012:10:19 11:53:11-04:00
History Software Agent: Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
History Changed: /
Profile CMM Type: Lino
Profile Version: 2.1.0
Profile Class: Display Device Profile
Color Space Data: RGB
Profile Connection Space: XYZ
Profile Date Time: 1998:02:09 06:49:00
Profile File Signature: acsp
Primary Platform: Microsoft Corporation
CMM Flags: Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer: IEC
Device Model: sRGB
Device Attributes: Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent: Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant: 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile Creator: HP
Profile ID: 0
Profile Copyright: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company
Profile Description: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Media White Point: 0.95045 1 1.08905
Media Black Point: 0 0 0
Red Matrix Column: 0.43607 0.22249 0.01392
Green Matrix Column: 0.38515 0.71687 0.09708
Blue Matrix Column: 0.14307 0.06061 0.7141
Device Mfg Desc: IEC
Device Model Desc: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB
Viewing Cond Desc: Reference Viewing Condition in IEC61966-2.1
Viewing Cond Illuminant: 19.6445 20.3718 16.8089
Viewing Cond Surround: 3.92889 4.07439 3.36179
Viewing Cond Illuminant Type: D50
Luminance: 76.03647 80 87.12462
Measurement Observer: CIE 1931
Measurement Backing: 0 0 0
Measurement Geometry: Unknown (0)
Measurement Flare: 0.999%
Measurement Illuminant: D65

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 11:58 AM
reply to post by cartenz

I ran into the character limit for that last post. Here is the rest.

Technology: Cathode Ray Tube Display
Red Tone Reproduction Curve: (Binary data 2060 bytes)
Green Tone Reproduction Curve: (Binary data 2060 bytes)
Blue Tone Reproduction Curve: (Binary data 2060 bytes)
DCT Encode Version: 100
APP14 Flags 0: [14]
APP14 Flags 1: (none)
Color Transform: YCbCr
Aperture: 2.0
Flash: Off, Did not fire
Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 1.5
Shutter Speed: 1/52
Thumbnail Image: (Binary data 5417 bytes)
Circle Of Confusion: 0.020 mm
Field Of View: 37.5 deg
Focal Length: 35.0 mm (35 mm equivalent: 53.0 mm)
Hyperfocal Distance: 30.87 m
Image Size: 1584x1056
Light Value: 6.0

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 12:00 PM
100% photoshop...just look at the close up....on the left cheek of the guy holding the camera, the edge is ondulated, whoever photoshopped this did a really bad job of it.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 12:06 PM
reply to post by jtrenthacker

If I U2U some FTP details, could you upload the original to my server?

Im quite intrigued by this image and would really like to see the hi-res pic

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 12:43 PM
My kids are watching Scooby as I am reading this thread.

The ghost photo looks totally fake and they would have gotten away with it if it weren't for these pesky eyes....
edit on 19-10-2012 by seen2much because: I bumped into my computer as I was writing and had to rewrite a word when I finally realized what I had done. I thought of leaving it as it is but I then became ashamed at just how sedentary I had become.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 12:44 PM
reply to post by jtrenthacker

Don't shoot the messenger, but it looks staged, and fake, to me. However, I do believe in ghosts, or spirits, or whatever you would like to call them.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 12:47 PM
He should have at least cut out two eye-holes! This is why pictures do not help but hurt our cause.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 12:48 PM
reply to post by jtrenthacker

What ghost?

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 01:03 PM
reply to post by cartenz

Sure thing. Message me.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 06:24 PM
Looks photoshopped a lot to me but it's pretty cool non the less.
Highly doubt this was the original raw photograph either does not look natural.

posted on Oct, 19 2012 @ 06:36 PM
Can we please stop using the term "photoshopped", its not even a word. If you want to say an image has been manipulated there are plenty of real words available.

The Photoshop trademark must never be used as a common verb or as a noun. The Photoshop trademark should always be capitalized and should never be used in possessive form or as a slang term. It should be used as an adjective to describe the product and should never be used in abbreviated form.

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