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Originally posted by connorromanow
reply to post by On7a7higher7plane
im not sure about illuminati but i think that there is some kind of a goodsecret soceity trying to fight the evil secret soceity.
Originally posted by Infernalis
Destruction and creation are entwined. What looks "evil" from the ground up or limited perspective, may impact the greater good in long term thinking and planning.
If you had to kill two thirds of humanity to perpetuate the human race as a whole, what would you do? If you had to let peoples greed and power mechanisms play out to raise humanity to a higher level, what would you do? How would you go about uniting a divided barbaric humanity in order to achieve real progress as a species?
Yes I have considered the benevolence behind the ultimate direction we are being taken. The foundational philosophies behind the supposed ruling organization, by whatever name you want to call them, are essentially benevolent, which has always made me wonder. We obviously cannot continue on our current path.
Frankly, even a cursory look at this thread or site in general, or the world and people around you as an indicator of the mentality of the mass of humanity, and I would not hesitate to pull the plug on the majority of humanity myself.
Do you think you could bring humanity to a higher level by kind and gentle means?
Try making an omelette without cracking some eggs!
Of course I could be completely wrong, but if you do not entertain alternate perspectives how can you ever break the chains of your own mind? Emotional, guttural, box minded psychologically mechanical reactions... Continue!
Good and Evil are two sides of the same coin... You are the coin!
Originally posted by On7a7higher7plane
reply to post by andy06shake
I'm under the impression that the New World Order was the federal reserve dollar being established as the worldwide reserve currency.
And if this is true the New World Order is already implemented and has been for almost a century now.
I tend not to think that the NWO conspiracy theorists so avidly claim is a plan for a one world government that has any chance of success, but I am ignorant.
It's really NOT like a lie at all.
Originally posted by magickmaster
The idea of keeping secrets.....for instance, itself, lends itself to abuse, by it's very nature, alone.
It's like the lie. The first one may be innocent, but more must follow to protect the integrity of the original lie. Then more lies on top of lies, and the effort to conceal truth may include subversion, manipulation, and even injury and god forbid, murder.
Originally posted by JoshNorton
It's really NOT like a lie at all.
Originally posted by magickmaster
The idea of keeping secrets.....for instance, itself, lends itself to abuse, by it's very nature, alone.
It's like the lie. The first one may be innocent, but more must follow to protect the integrity of the original lie. Then more lies on top of lies, and the effort to conceal truth may include subversion, manipulation, and even injury and god forbid, murder.
A lie, you have to perpetuate, and it can snowball like you have explained.
But with a secret, all I have to do is say "I won't tell you that." and it ends there.
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by magickmaster
There is nothing inherently wrong with keeping secrets. A secret is neutral until applied for either a good/righteous purpose or an evil/immoral one. Everyone has secrets.
Secrets are nothing like lies. Lies are inherently bad.
reply to post by magickmaster
There are Lodges who can trace their history back to the 16th century. There's also manuscripts who date Freemasonry back to the 10th century. Freemasonry has nothing to do with the "New World Order".
Your spouting nothing factual, but just recycling the same "anti-Jew" garbage.
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by magickmaster
So you're a self-hating Jew?
1717 was not a resurrection of Freemasonry, but rather the establishment of the first Grand Lodge. Plenty of Lodges existed long before the establishment of the first Grand Lodge in London.
What evidence do you have that the establishment of the first Grand Lodge dates back to the Glorious Revolution?
Originally posted by magickmaster
What evidence do you have that the lodges of Freemasonry go back further than 1717 in England?
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicusThere are plenty of references to Masonry prior to 1717.
Originally posted by startledcrow
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicusThere are plenty of references to Masonry prior to 1717.
Indeed, brother, indeed.
I think a lot of people forget the actual origins of Freemasonry. Like that of before we started accepting non-actual Masons into the fraternity. I mean when the days of the stone Masons were around.
Originally posted by magickmaster
Do you beat your wife in the mornings or in the evenings?
What evidence do you have that the lodges of Freemasonry go back further than 1717 in England?
What a non sequitur. I'm saying that someone who keeps a secret has no need to lie about anything, and you're bringing up someone who was supposedly killed for NOT keeping secrets. I don't see how the two are related at all.
Originally posted by magickmaster
I'm sure William Morgan is rolling over in his grave, about now. Him and many others